hazwoper Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Interesting and shows we are (slowly) making a steop in the right direction. I know it isn't a huge drop by any means, but with renewable sources continuing to be brought on-line and the use of natural gas now in line with coal certainly encouraging. http://www.eia.gov/t...=7890&src=email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryM Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Is anyone aware of whether coal extraction is actually declining, or are we simply switching to gas and exporting the coal? Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabize Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Is anyone aware of whether coal extraction is actually declining, or are we simply switching to gas and exporting the coal? Terry That's certainly what the Australians are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Australia has layed off a ton of coal workers... Its just not profitable anymore. http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2012/09/10/Coal-mining-jobs-slashed-in-Australia/UPI-80371347296887/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Is anyone aware of whether coal extraction is actually declining, or are we simply switching to gas and exporting the coal? Terry We are exporting the coal to developing nations. The global usage of coal has really increased over the last decade. http://mobile.businessinsider.com/coal-the-ignored-juggernaut-2012-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 We are exporting the coal to developing nations. The global usage of coal has really increased over the last decade. http://mobile.busine...ggernaut-2012-6 The wealthy nations are cutting back while the developing nations are burning even more. Time to invest in co2 sequestration technology, it has to be pulled from the air. The alternative is war I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 The wealthy nations are cutting back while the developing nations are burning even more. Time to invest in co2 sequestration technology, it has to be pulled from the air. The alternative is war I guess. I think that the only time that the world will get serious about co2 reduction is when we can move beyond a carbon based economy. We will need a scientific breakthrough that allows us to transition to a clean non-polluting energy source. It will also have to be cheap enough for developing nations that are stuck in poverty to afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryM Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I think that the only time that the world will get serious about co2 reduction is when we can move beyond a carbon based economy. We will need a scientific breakthrough that allows us to transition to a clean non-polluting energy source. It will also have to be cheap enough for developing nations that are stuck in poverty to afford. I'd assume that the price of coal would drop as it's usage decreased in developed economies. Poor countries, unable to afford substitutes, would continue to burn the ever cheaper fuel until transportation costs make it unattractive, or until the transportation system breaks down. A hundred years ago the poor in London could heat their hovel by picking over debris next to the rail tracks. Choked the city almost to death, but probably prevented frost bite. If a country lowers it's carbon footprint by outsourcing the most energy consuming manufacturing, can this be counted as progress? Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I'd assume that the price of coal would drop as it's usage decreased in developed economies. Poor countries, unable to afford substitutes, would continue to burn the ever cheaper fuel until transportation costs make it unattractive, or until the transportation system breaks down. A hundred years ago the poor in London could heat their hovel by picking over debris next to the rail tracks. Choked the city almost to death, but probably prevented frost bite. If a country lowers it's carbon footprint by outsourcing the most energy consuming manufacturing, can this be counted as progress? Terry Pet peeve: its. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I'd assume that the price of coal would drop as it's usage decreased in developed economies. Poor countries, unable to afford substitutes, would continue to burn the ever cheaper fuel until transportation costs make it unattractive, or until the transportation system breaks down. A hundred years ago the poor in London could heat their hovel by picking over debris next to the rail tracks. Choked the city almost to death, but probably prevented frost bite. If a country lowers it's carbon footprint by outsourcing the most energy consuming manufacturing, can this be counted as progress? Terry The ironic part of this is that the big foreign trade treaties to facilitate this process were signed while Al Gore was VP back in the 1990's. The policies which were a continuation of previous administrations work to lay the foundation for globalization actually made it more difficult to arrive at a sensible global emissions reduction policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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