Brian5671 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Getting tough in that business. Being on the air for 6 hrs in the morning is probably not an easy thing to do and who knows about contracts. my guess is that as other news/weather sources have increased over the years--internet, cable, smartphones etc, and ratings are now diluted amongst 15-20 pieces of the pie (vs the old days where it was 3-5 TV channels) salaries are way down and hours up. Gone are the days when one guy or gal stayed with a TV newschannel for yeas on end (and likely had a hefty salary at the end of the run) many of those were canned and cheap replacements brought in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 i have to say i'm impressed by litchfield libations in the temp contests. congratulations LL . your kicking asss he is doing awesome, going to take a beat down for Sept though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of frost Monday night/Tuesday morning. Think Sunday night/Monday morning will still be a bit too windy from CAA...but perhaps not in some of the favored decoupling spots. But 850 temps in the 2-4C range and light winds could cause the first pretty decent widespread frost for SNE...at least for a good chunk of MA/N CT. We'll have to see how it evolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of frost Monday night/Tuesday morning. Think Sunday night/Monday morning will still be a bit too windy from CAA...but perhaps not in some of the favored decoupling spots. But 850 temps in the 2-4C range and light winds could cause the first pretty decent widespread frost for SNE...at least for a good chunk of MA/N CT. We'll have to see how it evolves. last year was middle/end of Oct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of frost Monday night/Tuesday morning. Think Sunday night/Monday morning will still be a bit too windy from CAA...but perhaps not in some of the favored decoupling spots. But 850 temps in the 2-4C range and light winds could cause the first pretty decent widespread frost for SNE...at least for a good chunk of MA/N CT. We'll have to see how it evolves. Not for me..But congrats to the valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Not for me..But congrats to the valley seriously how big was the diameter of the branch, daylight pics?, roof damage? Lebanon, Hampton, Scotland got rocked yet again last night, that place has been a magnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 last year was middle/end of Oct? 9/17 last year was pretty chilly with some patchy frost in the typical spots...but yeah, I don't really think the first widespread frost in SNE was until October...though earlier than middle to late...Oct 6/7 had a nice cold snap that produced a lot of frost. Then we torched until Rocktober at the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Not for me..But congrats to the valley Well it doesn't frost on top of our hills even in mid-winter. The only frost I normally get is from freezing fog in an overrunning setup or if we have a backdoor front after a ZR event and it hits like 29F with still fully saturated air in the low levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 9/17 last year was pretty chilly with some patchy frost in the typical spots...but yeah, I don't really think the first widespread frost in SNE was until October...though earlier than middle to late...Oct 6/7 had a nice cold snap that produced a lot of frost. Then we torched until Rocktober at the end of the month. thanks, nice Euro run keeps us pretty much normal to below rest of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Not for me..But congrats to the valley My thoughts exactly. Pretty comfy now though at 61/41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 General pattern going forward keeps the low near the Aleutians with a few lobes pushing into AK causing persistent ridging in western Canada. Although the flow may relax a bit heading into October...for now it's not a pattern to bring in sustained warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 General pattern going forward keeps the low near the Aleutians with a few lobes pushing into AK causing persistent ridging in western Canada. Although the flow may relax a bit heading into October...for now it's not a pattern to bring in sustained warmth. That OP run is pretty bullish on keeping the +PNA ridge...but the ensembles past D10 seem to have a lot of spread...more than is typical.The mean looks slightly below average, but quite a few members appear like they'd want to torch us too...while of course a few put us on the deep freeze. I'm pretty uncertain on how early October is going to pan out. It does look like the next 7-10 days though will average out comfortably below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 seriously how big was the diameter of the branch, daylight pics?, roof damage? Lebanon, Hampton, Scotland got rocked yet again last night, that place has been a magnet. Bump for an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Question...when talking about good radiating spots is it mainly regarding wind? I live on a hill but its sheltered, does that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 That OP run is pretty bullish on keeping the +PNA ridge...but the ensembles past D10 seem to have a lot of spread...more than is typical.The mean looks slightly below average, but quite a few members appear like they'd want to torch us too...while of course a few put us on the deep freeze. I'm pretty uncertain on how early October is going to pan out. It does look like the next 7-10 days though will average out comfortably below average. I have a feeling it may edge warmer than normal, but like I told LL...I really couldn't say for certain. I guess something like the ensembles could happen. A pattern with an overall +NAO, but also ridging in Canada. It may cause Canada to be mild...but overall heights here maybe are neutral or slightly above? You can kind of see this on the GEFS and EC ensembles. I'm not saying that will be the pattern for the whole month...but I guess it's possible it could feature variations of that with some cold intrusions from time to time. The MJO will probably have a say too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Bump for an answer You are not going to get one because it would not have qualified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Question...when talking about good radiating spots is it mainly regarding wind? I live on a hill but its sheltered, does that matter? Wind is part of the equation but surrounding terrain is another. If you are sheltered from the wind but have a lot of adjacent land around you that is lower elevation, then the cold air just flows downhill and settles in the low spots while you are radiating. So you might cool a little better than the very top of an exposed hill, but overall still don't cool nearly as efficiently as a "basin" or "bowl" shaped area. The ideal spot is an elevated basin or glen type structure where you have both colder antecedent air from elevation and the ability to radiate efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I have a feeling it may edge warmer than normal, but like I told LL...I really couldn't say for certain. I guess something like the ensembles could happen. A pattern with an overall +NAO, but also ridging in Canada. It may cause Canada to be mild...but overall heights here maybe are neutral or slightly above? You can kind of see this on the GEFS and EC ensembles. I'm not saying that will be the pattern for the whole month...but I guess it's possible it could feature variations of that with some cold intrusions from time to time. The MJO will probably have a say too. If we ended up with a lot of ridging over central Canada and Hudson Bay to start October, my guess is we would end up above normal to start while perhaps the southeast U.S. is below normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 If we ended up with a lot of ridging over central Canada and Hudson Bay to start October, my guess is we would end up above normal to start while perhaps the southeast U.S. is below normal. I should clarify..I meant western Canada. But, the weeklies would probably be slightly above normal if they were to happen with the se cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wind is part of the equation but surrounding terrain is another. If you are sheltered from the wind but have a lot of adjacent land around you that is lower elevation, then the cold air just flows downhill and settles in the low spots while you are radiating. So you might cool a little better than the very top of an exposed hill, but overall still don't cool nearly as efficiently as a "basin" or "bowl" shaped area. The ideal spot is an elevated basin or glen type structure where you have both colder antecedent air from elevation and the ability to radiate efficiently. Thanks will, exactly what I was looking for. Just down the hill there's a flat or even little bowl shaped feature at about 920', I wonder if theres even a difference there. It might not be big enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks will, exactly what I was looking for. Just down the hill there's a flat or even little bowl shaped feature at about 920', I wonder if theres even a difference there. It might not be big enough though. I've seen 100' make a difference. It's about how the elevation is relative to the surroundings of that site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I've seen 100' make a difference. It's about how the elevation is relative to the surroundings of that site. It doesn't take much. I've seen the car thermo climb about 5F going up about 200ft from my river valley to my house which is less than a mile. I've already had a few mornings where I'm clear and there is thick fog down there. We usually keep a 1-2mph drainage wind on the hillside every rad night. The other morning I left here at 615ft with 39F and a 1-3mph wind, went up to 800ft where I could see the leaves being ruffled a bit, and then made the descent back to 400ft where there was patchy frost on a farmer's field and shallow fog over the Winni River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Well it doesn't frost on top of our hills even in mid-winter. The only frost I normally get is from freezing fog in an overrunning setup or if we have a backdoor front after a ZR event and it hits like 29F with still fully saturated air in the low levels. I do get frost occasionally in the winter..seems like it happens mostly as we head twds spring though..Don't recall too much frost in the mid winter..or even early winter. I wonder what the reason is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 seriously how big was the diameter of the branch, daylight pics?, roof damage? Lebanon, Hampton, Scotland got rocked yet again last night, that place has been a magnet. It was about 4 inches..It looked like it had been weakened in the snowstorm..because it split in 2 places and one of the splits was weathered and not new wood. It dented the gutter in one small area,,but I went up on the roof and no damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 General pattern going forward keeps the low near the Aleutians with a few lobes pushing into AK causing persistent ridging in western Canada. Although the flow may relax a bit heading into October...for now it's not a pattern to bring in sustained warmth. Nice cold shot coming on the Euro for my football trip to Buffalo for Bills/Pats game on the 29th. Maybe even lake effect if the Euro verified lol / What do you think? Normal or below that weekend in KBUF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Question...when talking about good radiating spots is it mainly regarding wind? I live on a hill but its sheltered, does that matter? No wonder your parents were reporting calm winds last night while everyone else in your town was ripping 50+ gusts with trees falling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wind is part of the equation but surrounding terrain is another. If you are sheltered from the wind but have a lot of adjacent land around you that is lower elevation, then the cold air just flows downhill and settles in the low spots while you are radiating. So you might cool a little better than the very top of an exposed hill, but overall still don't cool nearly as efficiently as a "basin" or "bowl" shaped area. The ideal spot is an elevated basin or glen type structure where you have both colder antecedent air from elevation and the ability to radiate efficiently. This must be how Hunchback radiates so well at 1100 feet. he just plummets on calm nights for such a high elevation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It was about 4 inches..It looked like it had been weakened in the snowstorm..because it split in 2 places and one of the splits was weathered and not new wood. It dented the gutter in one small area,,but I went up on the roof and no damage Good deal. You were lucky, the 4 inch diameter that hit my house during Irene did a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 No wonder your parents were reporting calm winds last night while everyone else in your town was ripping 50+ gusts with trees falling lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 No wonder your parents were reporting calm winds last night while everyone else in your town was ripping 50+ gusts with trees falling I live 150' below the highest point in town, it's right up my road. The treetops would still be moving around a lot, you're a dope. When I said "sheltered" I meant by trees, I don't even know if that matters. I cant wait to post pics of my 10-12" this winter when you have 5 inches of slop...Kind of like Octobomb last year where I just...you know doubled your snowfall. Sorryboutit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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