tombo82685 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 you wanna know the real reason why this fell apart...Li and ryan didn't chase together, they went there separate ways. Thats like having a peanut butter sandwhich but eating the peanut butter piece first then eating the jelly piece 2nd, just doesn't worl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMolineuxLM1 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 you wanna know the real reason why this fell apart...Li and ryan didn't chase together, they went there separate ways. Thats like having a peanut butter sandwhich but eating the peanut butter piece first then eating the jelly piece 2nd, just doesn't worl Didnt fail for me though. Tornado was reported by Me and the Fire Department in Loganville, PA York County where the big rig got knocked over. So it didnt fail for me, called ryan first to let him know about the Funnel cloud as soon as i hungup it dropped and did some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I wonder if the Giants win tomorrow... I wonder if the Eagles will ever win a Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 you wanna know the real reason why this fell apart...Li and ryan didn't chase together, they went there separate ways. Thats like having a peanut butter sandwhich but eating the peanut butter piece first then eating the jelly piece 2nd, just doesn't worl 0.63" . 69 degrees. Nice BBQ weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I wonder if the Eagles will ever win a Super Bowl this is the year. book it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Didnt fail for me though. Tornado was reported by Me and the Fire Department in Loganville, PA York County where the big rig got knocked over. So it didnt fail for me, called ryan first to let him know about the Funnel cloud as soon as i hungup it dropped and did some damage. i don't see a tornado report on the LSR...also, big rig can be knocked over with straight line wind damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 this is the year. book it... Actually this severe weather "outbreak" reminds me of the Eagles, alot of build up and hype.......followed by a complete letdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Watch is still out to 10PM in jerz. Anyone think more can pop outside of what's heading NE now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Actually this severe weather "outbreak" reminds me of the Eagles, alot of build up and hype.......followed by a complete letdown. Kinda like the vaunted Giants D against Romo? Yeah, I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Watch is still out to 10PM in jerz. Anyone think more can pop outside of what's heading NE now? I wouldn't rule something out just yet, Jersey has found ways to cash in last minute this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 unbelievable how many Mod Risks this year have poo-poo'd out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 My chase was a one block walk to get that photo before, Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 .50" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 fairy-dusted again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPPG Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 66.4/64 .52" , max rate 2.17"/hr Max wind 35mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Just to make matters clear. I'm not complaining about the storms per say, and perhaps I should have worded differently. Within the heaviest of the rain, which was at 5" per hour at one point, we had what I'd think were a few good gusts. My new station only recorded a peak wind gust of 12 mph. Now, the visuals at that time were of leaf clusters blowing off the tree next to my house, rain blowing sideways, and water blowing off of roof tops. The cups were spinning quite fast I might add. If I didn't have the station, I would have estimated the wind gusts at about 20-30mph, not 12 mph. I'm trying to figure out if my anemometer isn't recording the right wind speed. Obstructions matter A LOT when it comes to wind. So does the anemometer height. Remember that an ASOS anemometer is 33 feet above ground at a wide-open airport. Most home anemometers will *never* compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Obstructions matter A LOT when it comes to wind. So does the anemometer height. Remember that an ASOS anemometer is 33 feet above ground at a wide-open airport. Most home anemometers will *never* compare. I know my station is not in an optimal location for wind. Tamaqua is a small town with a big city footprint (lots of row homes and small properties). Still, watching the cups spin, and the trees moving in the wind, I would have sworn it was more like 20+ mph. maybe I'm wrong since I never had an anemometer before. Perhaps looks are deceiving, and those cup REALLY need to spin for a higher wind speed reading. BTW, can you do a list of reporting stations and wind gusts like you've done with other events? Or is there somewhere I can find one online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I know my station is not in an optimal location for wind. Tamaqua is a small town with a big city footprint (lots of row homes and small properties). Still, watching the cups spin, and the trees moving in the wind, I would have sworn it was more like 20+ mph. maybe I'm wrong since I never had an anemometer before. Perhaps looks are deceiving, and those cup REALLY need to spin for a higher wind speed reading. Probably. The trees were almost certainly moving faster than the wind at your station, which as I recall is lower than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I know my station is not in an optimal location for wind. Tamaqua is a small town with a big city footprint (lots of row homes and small properties). Still, watching the cups spin, and the trees moving in the wind, I would have sworn it was more like 20+ mph. maybe I'm wrong since I never had an anemometer before. Perhaps looks are deceiving, and those cup REALLY need to spin for a higher wind speed reading. BTW, can you do a list of reporting stations and wind gusts like you've done with other events? Or is there somewhere I can find one online? This is your station, yes? My new weather station I just picked up yesterday (8/30/12). Certainly not the best that money can buy, but then again, my budget just doesn't allow for a $300+ drop right now. It's still way better than what I was using. Time will tell just how accurate everything is, but so far, temps and humidity seem pretty close. 5 in 1 outdoor sensor unit. Indoor display unit. It'll never gust as high as the trees are getting, not by a long shot. For example, when I had the anemometer at that height at my parents' station, the peak gusts averaged 30-40% of what the ASOS reported. Now that its up at standard height (still sheltered by some trees though), its 60-70%... twice as good but still not up to snuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 This is your station, yes? It'll never gust as high as the trees are getting, not by a long shot. For example, when I had the anemometer at that height at my parents' station, the peak gusts averaged 30-40% of what the ASOS reported. Now that its up at standard height (still sheltered by some trees though), its 60-70%... twice as good but still not up to snuff. Yup, that's my station. I'd have loved something better, but it fits my needs and is quite accurate with all other readings. I could mount it higher, but then my rain and/or temps might be off, not to mention servicing the unit would be more troublesome. As it sits, I can do it with just a small step ladder. I have to add that I did a check of PWS in and around my area, and nearly all of them were were in the general ballpark with mine as far as peak winds were concerned. Most within a 20 mile radius of me were between 10-20 mph. Farther east and west and the gusts were higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Yup, that's my station. I'd have loved something better, but it fits my needs and is quite accurate with all other readings. I could mount it higher, but then my rain and/or temps might be off, not to mention servicing the unit would be more troublesome. As it sits, I can do it with just a small step ladder. Yes, its a trade-off you have to make for a combo station. Not meant to knock it, just identifying that your winds will likely be only 30-40% of "reality". I have to add that I did a check of PWS in and around my area, and nearly all of them were were in the general ballpark with mine as far as peak winds were concerned. Most within a 20 mile radius of me were between 10-20 mph. Farther east and west and the gusts were higher. That may be, but I know many PWS's don't make the effort to put the wind sensor in a location closer to standard. Combo stations like yours abound, and even for those with the option of separating wind from the rest, some still don't put it any better than head level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Yes, its a trade-off you have to make for a combo station. Not meant to knock it, just identifying that your winds will likely be only 30-40% of "reality". That may be, but I know many PWS's don't make the effort to put the wind sensor in a location closer to standard. Combo stations like yours abound, and even for those with the option of separating wind from the rest, some still don't put it any better than head level. Thanks Ray for the explanations. It helped a lot. As for folks who CAN mount their wind sensors in an appropriate location but don't, it doesn't make sense. If I could, I'd put up a flag pole or something to get it close to the standard height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 unbelievable how many Mod Risks this year have poo-poo'd out. considering there were nearly 300 severe wind reports and at least 3 tornadoes, it certainly wasn't a "bust" overall. It may have busted in PA and NJ but 45% odds means it's still better than a coin flip you're going to not see severe within 25 miles of you. The 0z NAM Friday night did a pretty good job in outlining the threat being to our north...probably should have been farther north than it painted it but it was well placed, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu_wxgirl Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Since I still don't have Internet and followed everything yesterday on my iPhone, can someone explain time why the line came through so early? The models I looked at on Friday and the NWS indicated the main line of storms wouldn't come through until 8 pm or so. Did the system speed up or was there so much instability ahead of the front that the storms fired early? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUCK JOE BIDEN Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 non-event here, 0.2" rain, some wind (less than 30mph), crap forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Im still waiting to see Li's pictures or video of the tornado he saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Since I still don't have Internet and followed everything yesterday on my iPhone, can someone explain time why the line came through so early? The models I looked at on Friday and the NWS indicated the main line of storms wouldn't come through until 8 pm or so. Did the system speed up or was there so much instability ahead of the front that the storms fired early? Thanks! Looks like the convective line initially developing some bowing structures within it, the line embedded in strong southwesterly flow, and the gust front getting out ahead of it, all helped to move the entire line quickly eastward. It also looks like the actual cold front caught up to and then over took the convective line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu_wxgirl Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Thanks!! Looks like the convective line initially developing some bowing structures within it, the line embedded in strong southwesterly flow, and the gust front getting out ahead of it, all helped to move the entire line quickly eastward. It also looks like the actual cold front caught up to and then over took the convective line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 for anyone that cares heres Li's "tornado" that he saw. This is rated pg-13 for some language content...the ladies in the room, ear muffs please. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHiJd2xM_dI&list=UUc-S2JXj_LwKn4xY_122mqg&index=1&feature=plcp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 for anyone that cares heres Li's "tornado" that he saw. This is rated pg-13 for some language content...the ladies in the room, ear muffs please. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHiJd2xM_dI&list=UUc-S2JXj_LwKn4xY_122mqg&index=1&feature=plcp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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