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Wake Me Up When September Ends / Banter thread


Damage In Tolland

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i'm guessing you weigh 300 lbs?

No, I weigh around 150 lbs I am actually slightly underweight. I don't like fat people, they smell bad and they are always sweating.

Interesting I was just reading somewhere else how you were saying how disgusting it was? Interesting.

they went down in the last hour.

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there is nothing enjoyable about cold wx. unless you're fat

Or if you like to ski, snowboard, snowmobile, ice skate, sled, snowshoe, play pond hockey, etc... I know you just come to troll, but its usually pretty laughable and does spark discussion during slow periods, lol.

My entire town must be fat... we all love winter and live here for just that reason.

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Well the frigid franks have to hang there hat on something right now, why I have no idea, its still summer, care about it when it matters like winter.

If you look at three day periods of average departures of 10 degrees or more occurring at all five SNE sites simultaneously, there are 61 such warm periods versus eight cold periods in the past three years. The caveat here that skews the magnitudes is that if it's a period of five consecutive days that are really warm at all sites, it counts as three separate events, but at least the same treatment is given on the cold side to keep things fair. As these numbers show, there has been a lack of real solid cold blasts in the past few years, but most of us probably knew that already. The imbalance is what is truly remarkable to me.

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Well you did say earlier that your mean temperature next week is 66, and Fairfield County, HVN, and GON are about the only places that have an average temperature that high in Connecticut.

Its ok, Steve is still mourning XXX. she had so much promise but only delivered a few measly inches:(

I don't know if people have made the switch to the new normals or not, but I guess it's easy to lose track of where we should be, especially now when you're dropping a whole degree off the mean every third day. Average temps for the 9/10-14 period range from ~60.5 (Norfolk) to ~68 (BDR). Moosup you would think is one of the cooler spots, and with the CT median normal temp of 64.2 (IJD), I'd say there is a lot of support that the normal temp there is about 63.7, if you trust NCDC's normals that is.

Fact check, The 2 major climo sites in between me, PVD and BDL ave 66 and 65 respectively, check the F6 data. LOL at any NCDC data. Let's see what PVD and HFD ave from Mon to Thurs.

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Fact check, The 2 major climo sites in between me, PVD and BDL ave 66 and 65 respectively, check the F6 data. LOL at any NCDC data. Let's see what PVD and HFD ave from Mon to Thurs.

The NCDC is where the F6 and NWS get their departures. There is only one source of averages/normals in the U.S., and that's the NCDC like it or not. Just like they are the official source of climate data regardless of what the NWS may have posted on their website. Anyway, aren't you cooler than HFD and PVD? I would guess you were at least a degree or two cooler than Hartford.

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The NCDC is where the F6 and NWS get their departures. There is only one source of averages/normals in the U.S., and that's the NCDC like it or not. Just like they are the official source of climate data regardless of what the NWS may have posted on their website. Anyway, aren't you cooler than HFD and PVD? I would guess you were at least a degree or two cooler than Hartford.

I know about NCDC , in early Sept I would say its a pretty homogenous temp profile from PVD to HFD, yea maybe a degree less, anyway back to the original point. It will be cooler than normal Mon- Thurs and I do not live in Fairfield.

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I know this is somewhat of an OT statement, but I almost think it's human nature to assign a result to a problem that we are unsure of. It's easy for us to blame AGW for X storm or X weather pattern. This is what computers tell us. That didn't work too hot in the late 90s now did it? We simply sometimes hate to say that we don't know and I think it is ok to say that. Like we said a million times...there is an underlying signal. But, there are a lot of questions too. I like using ACE as an example because I find it really interesting. We know how waters cool significantly after a cyclone has passed and how they transport heat north. But for a few years now ACE has been low meaning tropical cyclone activity has been low. SO where does that extra heat go? Well it has to go somewhere...we have a heat budget. Is it the reason for the mid latitude heatwaves? Maybe, maybe not...all I'm trying to say is that we should try to keep these in mind when thinking about how much warming we are causing. This isn't a denial-like opinion...it's one that is trying to figure out what's going on. Maybe the ice melts in 10 or 20 years...who knows.

There's a ton of interesting topics regarding to climate and climate change (both natural and human). I'm far more interested in the decadal trends (and even shorter time frames) and their main cause rather than the really long term trends since the former is what affects our weather much more on a shorter term basis as the swings are much more dramatic. But its always about perception though. The northeast has been warmer recently, so everyone wants to know why...global warming is an easy fallback. The AMO/PDO/AO decadal cycles sound too complicated or a vortex rotting over Alaska...its easier to just broadbrush it and say that's the reason.

The NCDC/NCEP divides the country into 9 regions...here are the following temperature trends for all months since the turn of the century (keep in mind the temps are in fahrenhite):

Northeast............+0.92F per decade

Southeast............+0.19F

Ohio Valley..........-0.10F

South..................-0.01F

Upper midwest.....-0.61F

N Plains/Rockies...-1.36F

Southwest............-1.33F

Pac Northwest......-1.15F

West....................-1.04F

So you can see we are the outlier right now in recent years. And its only natural to wonder why we have torched it up...esp the past 3 years.

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Nice breeze. Good to have somehting moving around this 66.8/66 air. Yeesh.

EDIT: Frequenlty whilel walking through the woods,I'll come across a tree or branch that has come down spontaneously (i.e., no wind/ice involved). As such, I often tell folks that they should be mindful of tree noise while walking in the woods. True to that, a nice larlge brach--at least large enough to be very noisy as it crashed through the tree canopy--just came down.

A little morning excitement in GC. Now, back to my coffee.

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Welcome to fall and first subfreezing temps I've seen on a forecast...forecast for Stowe, VT at 2K feet (nights are warmer at 4K)...

Monday: Sunny, with a high near 53. Light north wind becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph in the morning.

Monday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 31.

Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 59.

Tuesday Night: Clear, with a low around 33.

Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 64.

Wednesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 38.

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Welcome to fall and first subfreezing temps I've seen on a forecast...forecast for Stowe, VT at 2K feet (nights are warmer at 4K)...

Monday: Sunny, with a high near 53. Light north wind becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph in the morning.

Monday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 31.

Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 59.

Tuesday Night: Clear, with a low around 33.

Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 64.

Wednesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 38.

Congrats, Scott--a threshold has been reached!

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Have a great day folks, time to work, and if your headed to se facing beaches enjoy the swell! Top Ten day for sure. Reassuring to know we still have about 5 weeks of 80+ temps on the way here. Last October 10ths 85 sounds awfully nice right about now, hopefully more of the same.

Have the best day you have ever had!

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