CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:13 PM, CT Blizz said: I think the bigger issues for fall foliage are lengthy days and nights of high dews. Every autumn where high dews last thru much of September like this month appears to want to do.. Always destroys the foliage. They need cool dry mites not warm muggy pajamas stuck to balls kind if weather Well that goes back to average precip and cool nights. If you have those previous conditions like you mentioned, you will have warm nights and wet weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:21 PM, CoastalWx said: Swamp is returning. Dews in the upper 60s now. I was surprised to see dews in the mid 70s here today, I assume tomorrow will be more of the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:23 PM, CoastalWx said: Well that goes back to average precip and cool night. If you have those previous conditions like you mentioned, you will warm nights and wet weather. 70 plus pike south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 5:28 PM, ORH_wxman said: One thing that a lot of rain is not good for is the fall foliage. We want cool and dry weather over the next several weeks to get the best peak foliage. Hopefully we dry out after next week's rain. Otherwise only GC got to see great peak foliage this year since it occurred there before all the rain. The rest of us might be out of luck. Interesting. At the ski area we've been under the impression that we need the rain for good foliage. Several sources have been citing the dry summer potentially causing poor dull foliage...like leaves turn bland color and then fall, whereas moisture might help more robust/vivid color. Maybe the damage is done already, but yesterday's wildfire at 2,000+feet in Mount Mansfield state forest is a good example as to how dry it's been this summer on the whole. The fire was burning under mosses and ground cover that on this mountain is almost always wet and muddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:26 PM, powderfreak said: Interesting. At the ski area we've been under the impression that we need the rain for good foliage. Several sources have been citing the dry summer potentially causing poor dull foliage...like leaves turn bland color and then fall, whereas moisture might help more robust/vivid color. Maybe the damage is done already, but yesterday's wildfire at 2,000+feet in Mount Mansfield state forest is a good example as to how dry it's been this summer on the whole. The fire was burning under mosses and ground cover that on this mountain is almost always wet and muddy. It seems like there are always excuses for Foliage. What you don't want is a dry summer into September. Rain now helps, but it almost might be too late if the summer was very dry. Will is saying you don't want a rainy Fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:24 PM, litchfieldlibations said: I was surprised to see dews in the mid 70s here today, I assume tomorrow will be more of the same? Yep. This will not be a refreshing week across SNE. It might dry off a little, but no cool Canadian air really until Leslie passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:29 PM, CoastalWx said: It seems like there are always excuses for Foliage. What you don't want is a dry summer into September. Rain now helps, but it almost might be too late if the summer was very dry. Will is saying you don't want a rainy Fall. Yeah that makes sense...30s/40s at night and 60/70 during the day...high diurnal changes are likely better, as ORH alluded to. But you are right...every year you can hear a different take on the foliage and what conditions are best. If we think long range met forecasting is tough, I think forecasting the foliage season and how robust it will be is in a whole other league. However it's a huge part of tourism in these parts so the media is always trying to hype it, good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:31 PM, CoastalWx said: Yep. This will not be a refreshing week across SNE. It might dry off a little, but no cool Canadian air really until Leslie passes. Even then..nothing dry, cool, or refreshing...Spetember blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yeah, it's basically Isaac's little bundle of theta-e joy that's washing through the area. I suppose once Leslie's completed her screwing storm enthusiasts from a good time, a front will come on through - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:43 PM, powderfreak said: Yeah that makes sense...30s/40s at night and 60/70 during the day...high diurnal changes are likely better, as ORH alluded to. But you are right...every year you can hear a different take on the foliage and what conditions are best. If we think long range met forecasting is tough, I think forecasting the foliage season and how robust it will be is in a whole other league. However it's a huge part of tourism in these parts so the media is always trying to hype it, good or bad. I've noticed the foliage in NNE is usually pretty good as compared to SNE, even in lousy years. Probably because the whole cooler nights scenario usually occurs up that way. SNE is a little more prone to warmer nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Remnants of Issac are going into the Gulf. At least I think it's Issac or part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:47 PM, CoastalWx said: Remnants of Issac are going into the Gulf. At least I think it's Issac or part of it. it's possible some of the vorticity sheared off as it was winding down. This air mass we are in now definitely has origin in what Isaac transported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:51 PM, Typhoon Tip said: it's possible some of the vorticity sheared off as it was winding down. This air mass we are in now definitely has origin in what Isaac transported. Yeah definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 8:40 PM, butterfish55 said: Just pouring here all afternoon....1.16" so far Crazy. TAN only reporting 0.28". What's that like 5mi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 I got up from the couch and it stuck to me for the first few feet that I walked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 9:47 PM, CoastalWx said: Remnants of Issac are going into the Gulf. At least I think it's Issac or part of it. Pretty cool can see it on sat and radar! Quite a journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 10:19 PM, CT Blizz said: I got up from the couch and it stuck to me for the first few feet that I walked You were dragging the couch? Good grief... Enjoying this useless high td crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 10:38 PM, HubbDave said: You were dragging the couch? Good grief... Enjoying this useless high td crap? yes if we can score a few TOR's tomorrow morning like Ryan forecasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfish55 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I know....up to 1.32 know and still off and on heavy. We had some really heavy downpours come through around 2:30-3:00. I double checked it and it's definitely saying "day" and not "month". Crazy On 9/4/2012 at 10:14 PM, ETauntonMA said: Crazy. TAN only reporting 0.28". What's that like 5mi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 When can we expect the heaviest rain in SNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 10:39 PM, butterfish55 said: I know....up to 1.32 know and still off and on heavy. We had some really heavy downpours come through around 2:30-3:00. I double checked it and it's definitely saying "day" and not "month". Crazy Yeah, I drove through a nasty downpour about 415 in the Taunton/Raynham stretch of I-495. Vis was maybe 100yds. Saw a car in the median just before 138. Lots of standing water on I-495 with the road milled down for paving. Probably caught a ton of people off guard. We need to gtg for a few drinks one of these days. Been a while. We'll have to work around schedules. You live like 5 min from the Flying Dog on 138. They got a good menu and great beers with a good setup for football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 10:46 PM, CT Blizz said: When can we expect the heaviest rain in SNE? Probably tomorrow morning into aftn. It's not going to be like the rains in NNE, it will be from slow moving or possibly training stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Another tornado warming in S NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 10:49 PM, CT Rain said: Another tornado warming in S NJ Blizz says you called for tor pos. Weds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Actually Kev, might see a burst come through very late tonight associated with that stuff near Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfish55 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yup that's the one that gave us about an inch in less than an hour. right about the time my daughter was getting off the bus Hit me up for the gtg. On 9/4/2012 at 10:48 PM, ETauntonMA said: Yeah, I drove through a nasty downpour about 415 in the Taunton/Raynham stretch of I-495. Vis was maybe 100yds. Saw a car in the median just before 138. Lots of standing water on I-495 with the road milled down for paving. Probably caught a ton of people off guard. We need to gtg for a few drinks one of these days. Been a while. We'll have to work around schedules. You live like 5 min from the Flying Dog on 138. They got a good menu and great beers with a good setup for football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Decent LLJ tomorrow so if we can get CAPE, it's possible a spin up could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 10:54 PM, CoastalWx said: Decent LLJ tomorrow so if we can get CAPE, it's possible a spin up could happen. Nice... Dying TC ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 On 9/4/2012 at 10:53 PM, CoastalWx said: Actually Kev, might see a burst come through very late tonight associated with that stuff near Philly. Yeah i was thinking maybe those severe storms and tor's that are crushing HM would roar thru here late night? Might be a soaker kind of 9 mile run tomorrow morning FTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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