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Tropical Storm Leslie - Discussion, Images, Forecasts


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Could spell trouble for Newfoundland. The province, and Nova Scotia, have been experiencing unprecedented flooding today with even more rain forecast due to the tropical storm. Entire towns are underwater with water rescues from peoples roof tops. Some areas have seen 3-5" with an addition 2-6" from Leslie.

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If buoy 44139 (located at 44.2N 57.1W) is correct, then Leslie is likely significantly stronger than NHC thought:

http://www.ndbc.noaa...p?station=44139

Pressure there has dropped from 998 mb to 973 mb past 3 hours, and the winds were 46 kt (gusting to 60 kt) past hour.

Also, a ship at 45.4N 60W reported sustained 49 kt winds in the past hour:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?lat1=43.8N&lon1=56.8W&uom=E&dist=250&ot=A&time=12

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This will be one heck of a baroclinic Low. Any maps to post from the UK Met office with their forecasts?

GFS showing some good bombogenesis as this crosses the Labrador Sea. Residents of southern Greenland are in for quite a storm, and then it's going to have significant impacts in Europe.

Worst impacts crossing Newfoundland now probably, 70 mph wind gusts.

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There have been reports and pics of severe damage in SE Newfoundland. Lots of sheds destroyed, roofs damaged/destroyed, and a few tractor-trailers overturned.

Pics were all gathered from Twitter. Special thanks to Tim Ballisty from TWC for collecting many of the pics:

sfy.co/h8fD

New homes destroyed in Quidi Vidi neighborhood of St. John's:

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House destroyed, Pleasantville neighorhood - St John's:

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Home damage - Paradise:

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St John's Soccer Stadium Lights Down on Home - St John's:

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Corvette attacked by shed - St John's

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Shed damaged - Colliers:

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Shed destroyed - St John's:

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Deck collapse - Paradise:

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Patio damage - Mount Pearl:

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Walkway exploded - St John's:

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Walkway damage - St John's:

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Overturned track - Newtown:

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Overturned track - St John's:

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Roof damage - Mundy Pond:

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Roof damage to several homes - Mount Pearl:

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Gas pumps overturned - St. John's:

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Tree uprooted - St. John's:

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I normally roll my eyes at people complaining about the NHC for technical things like classifying or not classifying a swirl in the middle of nowhere, but this was a big goof. Off by 20 mb on the intensity of a landfalling storm? Someone should get fired for that.

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I normally roll my eyes at people complaining about the NHC for technical things like classifying or not classifying a swirl in the middle of nowhere, but this was a big goof. Off by 20 mb on the intensity of a landfalling storm? Someone should get fired for that.

What data did the forecaster had at hand and what were the consequences of such goof? Did it pop some off guard ears?

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NHC updated the pressure to 970 mb for the 2 AM advisory after seeing the buoy report. The 11 PM advisory had a pressure of 988 mb.

Since aircraft are used partly because Dvorak estimates can be an entire SS scale off, and NHC corrected the pressure with the buoy report, not sure why anyone would need firing.

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Since aircraft are used partly because Dvorak estimates can be an entire SS scale off, and NHC corrected the pressure with the buoy report, not sure why anyone would need firing.

It's not like they got the winds wrong either. They were using a standard P-W relationship in lieu of in situ obs (T4.0 = 65 kts = 987mb for a standard storm). Maybe they could have used a size adjustment, but it really didn't make a lick of difference to anyone.

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