MSCoastKitty Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Gulfport is the neighboring town to Long Beach where the videos I posted and my family is. City line is about 3 miles east from where the videos were taken. Harrison county is under a tornado warning currently. There is flooding on roadways and probably getting into homes in the county as well. There is a countywide curfew in effect currently. They've been getting bad wind and rain all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 According to topo maps and Google aerial photos & Streetview, Eden Isles are traditional homes (no stilts, many single story) waterfront at less than 10' in elevation with no levee protection. Guaranteed to flood repeatedly. Similarly sited new subdivision on the east side of I-10. How was the new subdivision allowed to be built in such an irresponsible place and manner? Was there a mandatory evacuation order here? I was looking at Google Earth and was about to make the exact same post, basically. An utterly insane subdivision to exist in that location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Bell Chase flooded also from your post above canderson? How many ft of water or do you have an idea? I don't think the city is, they actually Iive a bit outside but it is the nearest town to them. They are below the city. They lost everything in Katrina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camille>Katrina Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I am in Biloxi mother-in-law in Gulfport just N of the tracks behind the Naval Home were everyone saw Jim Cantore during Katrina everything is fine and wet.Winds have been all day maybe 20-25 steady most of the time have seen alot of 40-50 gust earlier not so much now.The thing now is rain and alot of it.I went on here http://water.weather.gov/precip/ and it shows a couple of inches of rain .Anybody got something believable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtWxWatcher Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 New Orleans Lakefront airport had 9.02" as of 7am central. Nothing more than gut feeling after looking at PWSs for the past few years, but I think this one might be ok (11+" on the day): http://www.wundergro...th=08&year=2012 All gauges are going to have some trouble in high wind, though. Wow, reading 17.59" so far today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camille>Katrina Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Confirmed tornado touchdown according to my nephew in Ocean Springs two blocks over from his house not far from Gulf Park Estates.I guess the GPFD let him head home this evening?Wind is moving right now do not have trees to look at but it's hammering the glass on the south side of the house as I type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Cantore and TWC breathless announcing as Breaking News that Plaquemines Parish has ordered the mandatory evacuation of the west bank (west of the Mississippi River, south of Belle Chase) of approx. 3000 people. Except that was ordered more than 8 hours ago. And I'm pretty sure I heard a few hours ago the parish announced the evacuation was successfully completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Dont know how accurate but this stations over 23" for today http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KLANEWOR33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauDodson Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Mitch Landrieu @MayorLandrieu 21m Causeway Police reporting the Causeway Bridge is closed due to waves over topping the bridge. Stay inside if you can. #isaac #nolaready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Listening to WWL, St. Charles Parish (west bank of the Miss River west of New Orleans) is concerned about surge flooding moving north from Lakes Salvador and Cataouatche into urban areas (no levee to protect surge from the south!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Isaac storm surge close to Katrina's http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2012/08/isaac_storm_surge_close_to_kat.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernNJ Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Some pretty good rotation in the rain NW of Mobile and NE of Biloxi. Would not be surprised to see a couple more tornado reports soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 still an easterly componenet to the wind for 2+ days flowing into Lake Pontchartrain ...so the 'potential' for a new orleans style katrina should still be there, no ? levels at new canal station continue to slowly rise. http://tidesonline.noaa.gov/plotcomp.shtml?station_info=8761927+New+Canal+Station,+LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 still an easterly componenet to the wind for 2+ days flowing into Lake Pontchartrain ...so the 'potential' for a new orleans style katrina should still be there, no ? levels at new canal station continue to slowly rise. http://tidesonline.n...nal Station, LA I don't see any way for the lake to really drastically rise above its current level . Also there hasn't been a single problem with any of the Federal Levees protecting New Orleans proper, on which billions have been spent for repairs, improvements, and new barriers. Every area that has flooded has been a suburb outside that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 still an easterly componenet to the wind for 2+ days flowing into Lake Pontchartrain ...so the 'potential' for a new orleans style katrina should still be there, no ? levels at new canal station continue to slowly rise. http://tidesonline.n...nal Station, LA It's incredible we're still at peak levels, and also crazy that New Orleans is still being hammered by spiral bands. I thought Frances of 2004 was a long storm in Florida, but this definitely beats that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I am aware of all these facts, I am not confused at the difference between Mississippi levees and Gulf levees nor about what happened. The corps guy said that water levels were dropping in Plaquemines during the eye of the storm and wouldn't increase, so there was nothing to worry about, which is not something you tell people before a 12 ft wall of water crashes through their town. Waters in both the river and the ocean increased for hours after he said that. He should be discharged or scrub toilets for the next few years since he may have killed people, and if he didn't he's lucky. You might want to consider taking a break from here. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 You might want to consider taking a break from here. :/ Oh noes, a wild troll appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 20" in Audobon park, New Orleans per TWC. Radar estimates a maximum of 10-16" in a band going through New Orleans, which just goes to show that radar estimates can be quite off. Probably some 2' amounts down in northern Plaquemines, but I wonder if any rain gauges didn't get hit by the storm surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 20" would be #5 on the all time list for wettest month list for the New Orleans area by itself. Also, More trouble for Slidell. FLASH FLOOD WARNING LAC103-301400- /O.NEW.KLIX.FF.W.0067.120830T0958Z-120830T1400Z/ /00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/ BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED FLASH FLOOD WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 458 AM CDT THU AUG 30 2012 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A * FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR... SOUTHEASTERN ST. TAMMANY PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF SLIDELL...EDEN ISLE... * UNTIL 900 AM CDT * AT 431 AM CDT...SLIDELL FIRE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS REPORTED A SURGE OF WATER POURING INTO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY FROM A BREACH IN THE RAILROAD TRACKS ALONG HIGHWAY 11. AREAS BELOW 10 FEET ELEVATION WILL BE INUNDATED WITH 1 TO 5 FEET OF FLOOD WATER THAT WILL RISE RAPIDLY. THIS IS A FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY FOR THE CITY OF SLIDELL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 If parts of NO really did get 15-20" rain, can anybody tell me why it isn't flooded out? The city floods in a typical heavy summer storm and those late June store were much worse flooding-wise for many areas around NO proper. It's like Houston; if this had hit Houston we are talking catastrophic flood damage with those amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 If parts of NO really did get 15-20" rain, can anybody tell me why it isn't flooded out? The city floods in a typical heavy summer storm and those late June store were much worse flooding-wise for many areas around NO proper. It's like Houston; if this had hit Houston we are talking catastrophic flood damage with those amounts. they were prepared and the pumps are working well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Flash Flood Emergencies have also been issued in Easten Jackson and Eastern George Counties in MS. radar estimate out of MOB of 16" so far in this area with training rainfall continuing BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED FLASH FLOOD WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL 707 AM CDT THU AUG 30 2012 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A * FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR... EASTERN GEORGE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI... * UNTIL 100 PM CDT * AT 657 AM CDT...EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS REPORTED FLASH FLOODING OVER THE WARNED AREA. A HEAVY RAINBAND HAS BEEN SITUATED OVER THE AREA MOST OF THE EARLY MORNING HOURS AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO DUMP 1.5 TO 2.5 INCHES OF RAIN PER HOUR FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS. RADAR ESTIMATED 6 TO 8 INCHES OF RAIN SINCE MIDNIGHT. THIS IS A FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY FOR EASTERN GEORGE COUNTY... PARTICULARLY ALONG AND EAST OF HIGHWAY 63. * LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONDERS MAY SOON BE CONDUCTING WATER RESCUES IN THE LUCEDALE AREA DUE TO FLOODED HOMES AND MULTIPLE FLOODED ROADWAYS. OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE WARNED AREA ARE LIKELY ALSO AFFECTED. THIS HAS EVOLVED INTO AN EXTREME EVENT...NOT A TYPICAL FLOOD EVENT ______________________________________ BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED FLASH FLOOD WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 712 AM CDT THU AUG 30 2012 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A * FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR... SOUTHEASTERN JACKSON COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI... THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...PASCAGOULA...MOSS POINT... ESCATAWPA... * UNTIL 1115 AM CDT * AT 705 AM CDT...LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS REPORTED FLASH FLOODING IN SEVERAL COMMUNITIES IN EASTERN JACKSON COUNTY INCLUDING PASCAGOULA...MOSS POINT AND CREOLE. OVER 6 INCHES OF RAIN HAS FALLEN IN THE PASCAGOULA AREA SINCE MIDNIGHT AND AN ADDITIONAL 2 TO 4 INCHES IS POSSIBLE OVER THE WARNED AREA. DEEP FLOODING IS VERY LIKELY TO OCCUR IN COMMUNITIES IN SOUTHEASTERN JACKSON COUNTY. THIS IS A FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY FOR EASTERN JACKSON COUNTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 More Flash Flood Emergencies in MS, one for expected dam failure. BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED FLASH FLOOD WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 826 AM CDT THU AUG 30 2012 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A * FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR... SOUTHWESTERN PIKE COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI... * UNTIL 1115 AM CDT * AT 810 AM CDT...LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS REPORTED THE LAKE TANGIPAHOA DAM IS EXPECTED TO FAIL. SEVERE FLOODING IS EXPECTED DOWNSTREAM ALONG THE TANGIPAHOA RIVER FROM WEST OF THE MCCOMB AIRPORT AND MAGNOLIA TO OSYKA. WATER LEVEL RISES ARE EXPECTED TO BE NEAR 8 FEET BELOW THE DAM TO 6 FEET AT OSYKA. CURRENT RIVER STAGE READING AT OSYKA WAS 14.8 FEET. THIS IS A FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY FOR ALL LOW LYING AREAS ALONG THE TANGIPAHOA RIVER INCLUDING OSYKA. _____________________________ FLASH FLOOD STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS 754 AM CDT THU AUG 30 2012 MSC031-035-067-073-301415- /O.CON.KJAN.FF.W.0122.000000T0000Z-120830T1415Z/ /00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/ COVINGTON MS-JONES MS-FORREST MS-LAMAR MS- 754 AM CDT THU AUG 30 2012 ...THIS IS A FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY FOR MARION AND LAMAR COUNTIES... ...A FLASH FLOOD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 915 AM CDT FOR LAMAR...FORREST...JONES AND COVINGTON COUNTIES... AS OF 715 AM CDT...BASED ON RADAR ESTIMATES AND OBSERVATIONS...10 TO 15 INCHES OF RAIN HAS FALLEN ACROSS MUCH OF MARION AND LAMAR COUNTIES. REPORTS FROM EMERGENCY MANAGMENT OFFICIALS INDICATE THAT PEOPLE ARE TRAPPED IN HOMES IN PARTS OF THESE COUNTIES...AND THAT WATER RESCUES WERE ONGOING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 WWL says Lake Tangipahao dam has failed, they are evacuating 50,000 people right now. 10-15' surge going south within next hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dena Snowhound Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The Damn at Tangipahao Lake is failing. The Parrish President called for a mandatory evacuation from Kentwood, LA to Robert, LA. WWLTV is reporting 50-60K people need to mover east or west away from the Tangipahao River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esullivan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Tangipahoa River flows into Lake Pontchartrain (NW section). Any thoughts on what this do flood-wise in NOLA, other spots on the lake? Not that the dam breaking isn't awful enough.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Pontchartrain is massive, this wouldn't have a big impact on its levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catoctin wx Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Unfortunately they had plans to drain the lake 6-10 feet after this coming Labor Day to do work on the dam. Bad timing all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Army Corps of Engineers has guages on this river, first one is about 25 miles south of the Dam Break at Amite: Also Google Earth kml here (choose New Orleans District, Pontchartrain BasiN: http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/new/layout.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The Damn at Tangipahao Lake is failing. The Parrish President called for a mandatory evacuation from Kentwood, LA to Robert, LA. WWLTV is reporting 50-60K people need to mover east or west away from the Tangipahao River. This says the dam is in "extreme danger" of failing. But as of now, it has not yet failed. http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2012/08/mandatory_evacuation_being_con.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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