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September 2012 General Discussion


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The axis of heavy rain this month has basically been from Southern Illinois through IND and then northeastward to CLE. I'm sure IND is in a similar situation in terms of wettest Septembers on record.

Wettest Septembers in Cleveland:

1. 11.05 1996

2. 9.30 1878

3. 9.10 1926

4. 8.30 2011

x. 7.48 2012

5. 7.38 1901

6. 7.33 1990

7. 6.75 1981

8. 6.41 1986

9. 6.37 1945

10. 6.17 1938

This could tick up a bit over the weekend, but 5th place is likely to hold. Also comes on the heels of very wet fall last year.

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need rain bad...good bet its a dry fall and winter...crisis on our hands up here.. water levels at record lows all across the state.

mmm. lots of 70's and mke mentions toasty temps could make an appearance next week..best time of the yr for them. problem is they prob continue all fall and winter with this pos attempt of a nino. better have latitude on your side for at at least the 1st half of winter.

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Today will break the 12 day streak of below normal departures at LAF.

Overall for September, through yesterday...

17 days below

7 days above

1 day normal

-3.9º departure

Well, technically correct as yesterday was exactly normal. Rain/clouds kept max temps in check...high/low of 67/57 yesterday at LAF.

0.47" 0.70" at IND this morning through 7:00am 8:00am, which currently places this September as the 8th 6th wettest on record.

10.37" in 2003

9.33" in 1926

8.17" in 1896

8.06" in 1989

7.61" in 1996

7.58" in 2012

7.54" in 1921

7.46" in 1895

7.31" in 1890

7.18" in 1932

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Gonna be the second September in a row to finish with a negative departure at the LAF.

September 2011

Mean temp: 64.4º (-1.8º)

Max temps 90º and above: 3

Max temps 80-89º: 3

Max temps 70-79º: 12

Max temps 60-69º: 11

Max temps 59º and below: 1

Min temps 70º and above: 2

Min temps 60-69º: 4

Min temps 50-59º: 19

Min temps 40-49º: 5

Min temps 39º or below: 0

September 2012 (stats through the 26th)

Mean temp: 63.2º (-3.8º)

Max temps 90º and above: 0

Max temps 80-89º: 5

Max temps 70-79º: 14

Max temps 60-69º: 6

Max temps 59º and below: 1

Min temps 70º and above: 3

Min temps 60-69º: 5

Min temps 50-59º: 8

Min temps 40-49º: 6

Min temps 39º and below: 4

Will update at the end of this month.

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Amazing that in this warm year we had 3 months at or below normal so far out of 9. April, August and September.

The chances at a record year have to be out the window now.

Jon

Not exactly. I have data back to 1870 for Detroit, and this is the warmest year on record (January through September) on record by nearly a full degree. I estimated September to finish at 64.0F at DTW. Data for all months is from the NWS DTX Climate Page: http://www.crh.noaa....p?n=decadetable. It was also the warmest on January to August period on record at Flint (beginning in 1893) and Saginaw (beginning in 1900), but I haven't updated through September for those locations yet.

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Warmest January to September periods on record at Detroit:

  1. 2012 57.4

  2. 1998 56.5

  3. 1921 56.5

  4. 2010 55.5

  5. 1991 55.4

  6. 2006 55.2

  7. 1955 55.1

  8. 2002 54.9

  9. 1933 54.9

  10. 1987 54.8

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Not exactly. I have data back to 1870 for Detroit, and this is the warmest year on record (January through September) on record by nearly a full degree. I estimated September to finish at 64.0F at DTW. Data for all months is from the NWS DTX Climate Page: http://www.crh.noaa....p?n=decadetable. It was also the warmest on January to August period on record at Flint (beginning in 1893) and Saginaw (beginning in 1900), but I haven't updated through September for those locations yet.

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Top 5 Warmest January to September periods on record at Detroit:

  1. 2012 57.4

  2. 1998 56.5

  3. 1921 56.5

  4. 2010 55.5

  5. 1991 55.4

Here is Flint (estimated 61.6F for September). The data is for the airport and co-op back to 1893, and other data from Genessee County back to 1888.

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Top 5 Warmest January to September periods on record at Flint:

  1. 2012 55.2

  2. 1933 55.1

  3. 1921 54.9

  4. 1998 53.9

  5. 1931 53.8

And Saginaw. Not much trend here, but still 2012 is the warmest on record. Missing data from the cooler 19th century.

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Top 5 Warmest January to September periods on record at Saginaw:

  1. 2012 54.8

  2. 1998 54.6

  3. 1921 54.5

  4. 1933 53.8

  5. 1931 53.8

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Here is Flint (estimated 61.6F for September). The data is for the airport and co-op back to 1893, and other data from Genessee County back to 1888.

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Top 5 Warmest January to September periods on record at Flint:

  1. 2012 55.2

  2. 1933 55.1

  3. 1921 54.9

  4. 1998 53.9

  5. 1931 53.3

September will drop both of those locations below first.... October looks below ad well... That's why its a 1 year period and not 8 months.

Edit: Wouldn't the colder upcoming months drop that down by aggregation.

Jon

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September will drop both of those locations below first.... October looks below ad well... That's why its a 1 year period and not 8 months.

Jon

This includes September. I used the monthly mean temperature through today, along with the NWS forecast high and low for tomorrow and Sunday. The estimate for September won't be more than about +/- 0.2F off, and the effect on the year-to-date would be minimal if any.

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September will drop both of those locations below first.... October looks below ad well... That's why its a 1 year period and not 8 months.

Edit: Wouldn't the colder upcoming months drop that down by aggregation.

Jon

This data is for January through September only (meaning it's the warmest first 9 months of each year). So the colder months would not affect this analysis. The numbers come from the NWS DTX website. I exported them into an Excel file, so I could easily create graphs for specific months and multiple month periods.

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This data is for January through September only (meaning it's the warmest first 9 months of each year). So the colder months would not affect this analysis. The numbers come from the NWS DTX website. I exported them into an Excel file, so I could easily create graphs for specific months and multiple month periods.

Gotcha.... The last two months probably tempered down a way above average year.... Next month will drop it below first in both location, but this year will obviously be above normal. It just will be less then record breaking.

March really did some damage.

Jon

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Gotcha.... The last two months probably tempered down a way above average year.... Next month will drop it below first in both location, but this year will obviously be above normal. It just will be less then record breaking.

March really did some damage.

Jon

Better hope we don't get a torchy Nov or Dec. 50s in Dec can do some serious damage as well. March screwed this entire year. Almost comical.

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Here is March 3rd in Gaylord Michigan... 2 weeks later it was 82 degrees.

Crazy month that was. How long did it take those snow piles to melt?

Just between the 5th and 6th here, it went from 31°/12° to 65°/29°. +13.4° for the month.

Edit: Back to this month. Looking at probably lower 40s tonight. Down to 46° now.

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Gonna be a perfect morning on the piers. a nice warm low 50's from mke to ugn and a westerly wind to add to the perfection.. The stage is set for a beautiful weekend for the Burnout Bash fishing tournament.

Good luck! I'm going to hit the local reservoir. The slab crappies should be coming shallow and turning on with the cooling water temps.

Starting out in the mid 40's and almost calm here. It's gonna be a cool start, but WAA should bump it up nicely into the lower 70's.

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