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September 2012 General Discussion


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I certainly won't be posting any more long range maps. but goshdangitall. The last umpteen runs of the GFS, especially today's 12z, would put smiles on a lot of faces from Minnesota down to Florida and up the east coast by the end of September. Just lock that pattern in until the end of October and then anything can happen as far as I'm concerned.

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Why NOT get cold air in Sept and Oct? ...avg temps around here in NDJFM are plenty cold for blizzards... Heck...i'd take below avg temps from June until mid Nov...then a normal DJFM...

Sweatin' like a pig today, even with low 40F dew points...strong south wind is pushing the temp past 80F this afternoon.

I hate building trusses... Working on a large shed project...ugh...not sure what i got myself into here.

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~168 hours (7 full days) is out far enough in my opinion. If I would want to share something beyond that, I'd just provide a link to it or describe it in words. - I know some of the maps take up a decent amount of storage space.

Temperature leveling off here around 71-72°. Not one cloud in the sky!

There is plenty of major cold within 168 hours now for much of the Plains/Midwest. The long-range was rock steady, and now appears to be coming to fruition.

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I certainly won't be posting any more long range maps. but goshdangitall. The last umpteen runs of the GFS, especially today's 12z, would put smiles on a lot of faces from Minnesota down to Florida and up the east coast by the end of September. Just lock that pattern in until the end of October and then anything can happen as far as I'm concerned.

More of the same from the 12z Euro too. Just a train of cold shots all the way out to 240hrs again, both in the ensemble and the operational - run-to-run consistency that has been totally lacking this year.

Was fabulous here today - low 70's and nonexistent humidity.

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My point and click: ahhhhhhhhhh. It's about time.

7-DAY FORECAST

  • Tonight Mostly clear, with a low around 57. South wind around 8 mph.
  • Sunday Mostly sunny, with a high near 82. South southwest wind 5 to 8 mph becoming west northwest in the afternoon.
  • Sunday Night A chance of showers and thunderstorms, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm after 1am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 50. North northwest wind 6 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.
  • Monday A slight chance of showers before 1pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 58. Northwest wind 9 to 18 mph, with gusts as high as 26 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
  • Monday Night Patchy frost after 4am. Otherwise, partly cloudy, with a low around 34. Northwest wind 5 to 13 mph.
  • Tuesday Patchy frost before 7am. Otherwise, mostly sunny, with a high near 59.
  • Tuesday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 42.
  • Wednesday A slight chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 64.
  • Wednesday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 44.
  • Thursday Partly sunny, with a high near 61.
  • Thursday Night A chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 43.
  • Friday A chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 57.
  • Friday Night A slight chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 42.
  • Saturday Mostly sunny, with a high near 60.

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NWS Forecast for: 3 Miles SE Lafayette IN

Tuesday: A 20 percent chance of showers before 2pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 62. Northwest wind 11 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph.

Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 41.

Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 64.

Wednesday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers. Partly cloudy, with a low around 49.

Thursday: A 30 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 69.

Thursday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 52.

Friday: A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 68.

Friday Night: A 30 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 47.

Saturday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 64.

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It's the NAM, but at least I am not posting 240 hour maps any more.

http://www.twisterda...e&archive=false

Go ahead. Only SpartyOn has a bug up his ass about that. I mean, it's one thing if there's a lot going on and it's just cluttering the thread. But when it's dead, speculation is what these threads are typically about.

Edit: Apparently Hoosier too. That's a new one. I'm sure if you add some analysis to the map, it should pass muster.

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After most, if not ALL areas in SE MI away from waterfronts had already done-so during previous days/weeks, yesterday DTW finally had its first official sub-50F low (49F) since early June. It looks like several very chilly nights this week. Color change has already started and this should only help things more.

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The only thing I have to say to all of the cold misers is be careful what you wish for.

Don't get too excited about wasting all of this cold air now then when the heart of winter gets here it's 1997 all over again.

I agree thats the last thing any cold miser would want. But that was an epic strong Nino. If you want to pull analogs, this year has a better chance of being more like the weak Ninos of 1976-77 or 1977-78 when a hot summer weather gave way to a cold Fall and even colder winter.

I think a lot of people are so used to the warm pattern weve been in since Spring 2011 that they forget we can go into long periods of cold too, ie, its not like you only have one or two chances for a trough lol.

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I agree thats the last thing any cold miser would want. But that was an epic strong Nino. If you want to pull analogs, this year has a better chance of being more like the weak Ninos of 1976-77 or 1977-78 when a hot summer weather gave way to a cold Fall and even colder winter.

I think a lot of people are so used to the warm pattern weve been in since Spring 2011 that they forget we can go into long periods of cold too, ie, its not like you only have one or two chances for a trough lol.

I agree in theory, but typically weather patterns cycle in and out, and are not persistent like the warm pattern we recently had.

This type of pattern we have now would have been much better in, say, December, than now.

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My point called for 80 this morning, but it looks like it will top out around 75 or 76 unless it continues to warm into the late afternoon. It is possible, if we don't get a persistent Indian Summer in October, that we may have seen the last of the 80s in Milwaukee. I'm sure lake temps are near normal by now as well, which is a good thing on this side of the lake where we rarely get LES events anyway.

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From IWX afternoon disco:

HIGH PRESSURE MOVES IN LATE TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY. LOWS ACROSS THE WEST AND SOUTH AWAY FROM LAKE PLUME LOOK TO DROP INTO

UPPER 30S WITH SOME MID 30S POSSIBLE. GROUND TEMPS STILL RATHER WARM AND WITH THIS BEING FIRST REAL POSSIBILITY FOR LOWS IN THE 30S

BELIEVE FROST POTENTIAL REMAINS LOW BUT NOT OUT OF QUESTION IN RURAL AREAS.

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My point called for 80 this morning, but it looks like it will top out around 75 or 76 unless it continues to warm into the late afternoon. It is possible, if we don't get a persistent Indian Summer in October, that we may have seen the last of the 80s in Milwaukee. I'm sure lake temps are near normal by now as well, which is a good thing on this side of the lake where we rarely get LES events anyway.

I think my point was 78°, ended up at 75°. That sun just isn't that strong anymore! I think an 80 or two will be it for down here. (Wouldn't be surprised if that was it though)

I would benefit us if lake temperatures were not too warm, because that ends up cutting into totals near the lake early on with an onshore flow.

Little above normal...

avgtemps-m_1992-2011.gif

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I think my point was 78°, ended up at 75°. That sun just isn't that strong anymore! I think an 80 or two will be it for down here. (Wouldn't be surprised if that was it though)

I would benefit us if lake temperatures were not too warm, because that ends up cutting into totals near the lake early on with an onshore flow.

Little above normal...

avgtemps-m_1992-2011.gif

Nice chart! Yeah, I'm with you. Obviously Western Michigan will benefit from warm lake waters in LE situations.

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