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September 2012 General Discussion


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Yeah yeah, me again. Ops agree, ensembles agree, CPC agrees. And by the way, that precip map I posted? Some of that would certainly be snow/sleet, at least in the evening/overnight hours, from northern MN to the UP and maybe into Wisco. Anyone on board yet?

That would be weather porn in DJF, heck its nice to see right now.

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MBY hit 42. Howell airport I think registered 44.

ARB's little bowl got down to 40 this morning and 38 yesterday morning. Gotta love microclimates.

Also, it's been a very, very long time since I've seen CPC's historical analogs to the current 8-14 day forecast show this kind of negative temperature departure. (ETA: Summer of 2009 was the last time that I can recall, to be specific, outside of winter).

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That's quite the troughing pattern on the GFS/Euro and their respective ensembles, haven't seen a sustained cool/cold shot like that into this region in awhile. Also am interested to see whether the warm sectors of any of these systems become favorable for severe wx. My hunch, that if it verifies to some degree, is that at least one of them will eventually.

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Andy looks like Weds could be an OK setup, not a lot of moisture, but from then on towards the east, yeah, looks mighty interesting...

You mean next Wed I take it?

If that trough turns out to be less sharp than it is progged to be (which several GFS members indicate, otherwise the primary threat would probably be more linear in nature), and if the moisture return sets up a bit earlier, then I could certainly see something towards the middle of next week. Specifics are not really worth going over this far out, but the Fall-type kinematics seem to be falling in place in some form or another.

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Late September has got to be the most useless time of the year for a negative temp departure! I was hoping we could ride the positive lake anomalies into the start of LES season, a cool fall could bring lake temps to normal levels. What a waste of cold air!

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Late September has got to be the most useless time of the year for a negative temp departure! I was hoping we could ride the positive lake anomalies into the start of LES season, a cool fall could bring lake temps to normal levels. What a waste of cold air!

You don't want the lakes super warm otherwise it will be rain near the lake the first few events or a snow that will not stick. I've missed out in some good early season snowfalls because Lake Michigan was running at 50 or better.

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You don't want the lakes super warm otherwise it will be rain near the lake the first few events or a snow that will not stick. I've missed out in some good early season snowfalls because Lake Michigan was running at 50 or better.

I guess you are lucky. I have had events in the middle of January with rain lakeside and snow 2 miles away.

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A 100+ acre bursh fire has been ongoing near Ottawa/Utica, IL for 2+ hours now.

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL

318 PM CDT TUE SEP 11 2012

ILZ011-012-019-112230-

DE KALB-KANE-LA SALLE-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...DEKALB...AURORA...OTTAWA

316 PM CDT TUE SEP 11 2012

A 100 ACRE BRUSH FIRE BETWEEN UTICA AND OTTAWA HAS RESULTED IN THE

CLOSURE OF DEE BENNETT ROAD IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.THE SMOKE PLUME IS

CROSSING INTERSTATE 80 BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 83 AND 86 AND THE EDGE

OF PLUME IS ALSO CROSSING INTERSTATE 88 BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 95

AND 101. THE SMOKE PLUME MAY CAUSE INTERMITTENT VISIBILITY

RESTRICTIONS IN THE AREA AND THOSE WITH SENSITIVE RESPIRATORY

CONDITIONS MAY BE AFFECTED AS WELL.

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I guess you are lucky. I have had events in the middle of January with rain lakeside and snow 2 miles away.

Come to think of it, it can happen later too. Usually the result of a marginal boundary layer. Sometimes it's hard to tell if the warming is coming off the lake when the low track is close by.

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Come to think of it, it can happen later too. Usually the result of a marginal boundary layer. Sometimes it's hard to tell if the warming is coming off the lake when the low track is close by.

yeah, i usually attribute it to the lake if it snowing really close by. If the snow is a fairly large distance from the lake though then it's most likely other factors at play.

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Next two days after tomorrow!

Thursday: Showers likely, mainly after 1pm. Cloudy, with a high near 64. North wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

Friday: A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 66. North wind around 10 mph.

:wub: :wub: :wub:

Hello Fall! :thumbsup:

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