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Hurricane Isaac, Part 3 - Analysis and Forecasting Thread


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Relevant high tide times, most appear to be in the morning: (source http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/quicklook/data/ISAAC.html#8762372wl)

Pilots Station East, SW Pass, LA: Next predicted high tides are 1.5 ft (0.47 m) at 08/29/2012 08:34 CDT and 1.4 ft (0.43 m) at 08/30/2012 09:26 CDT.

Grand Isle, LA: Next predicted high tides are 1.4 ft (0.41 m) at 08/29/2012 09:17 CDT and 1.2 ft (0.38 m) at 08/30/2012 10:21 CDT.

East Bank 1, Norco, B. LaBranche, LA: Next predicted high tides are 0.4 ft (0.13 m) at 08/28/2012 18:12 CDT and 0.4 ft (0.13 m) at 08/29/2012 18:43 CDT.

LAWMA, Amerada Pass, LA: Next predicted high tides are 1.4 ft (0.43 m) at 08/29/2012 04:05 CDT and 1.3 ft (0.40 m) at 08/29/2012 14:24 CDT.

Freshwater Canal Locks, LA: Next predicted high tides are 2.1 ft (0.64 m) at 08/29/2012 02:53 CDT and 1.8 ft (0.56 m) at 08/29/2012 12:20 CDT.

Shell Beach, LA: Next predicted high tides are 1.3 ft (0.41 m) at 08/29/2012 12:45 CDT and 1.2 ft (0.37 m) at 08/30/2012 14:26 CDT.

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I wonder if the SFMR is even working right, it's seemed way too low this whole storm and 110 mph flight level would suggest 95-100 mph in convection, not 65 mph! Winds sustained at 82 mph at mississippi canyon oil platform near where they're doing SFMR measurements (though it is fairly elevated).

I don't like how the NHC is giving SFMR precedent over all our other obs.

I just wonder if the viscosity of the brackish/marshy/nutrient-rich waters alters the ripple waveforms/seafoam on its surface that the SFMR uses to determine windspeed, and thus is lowballed by the SFMR when it scans the ocean surface...

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No recent recon fix yet, but radar suggests its wobbling to the SW.

WDSU was stating that the radar is showing a westward jog, should be interesting to see what happens. Fox 8's in-house model was showing the storm scraping along the coast before making its final landfall just west of Houma early tomorrow morning. (Love being able to watch local NO coverage on DirectTV.)

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Why are splitting everything into three+ threads? That makes it nearly impossible to keep up with things in real time.

I dunno but we started it that way so we'll finish it that way. I think general wind reports are fine here but the longer term impact stuff like flooding, reports on the levees, etc should probably go in the other thread.

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Isaac looks quite impressive on radar right now. The appearance continues to improve IMO.

If anything the center has been drifting south a bit over the last hour which will maximize its time over water. With cold cloud tops/intense convection continuing to wraparound the center (inner eyewall) we could see this thing continue to intensify for many more hours.

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This is becoming more and more organized by the minute and IMO we are probably less than 6 hours away from having a well established inner core with convection completley wrapped around. Should that happen, I would expect surface winds to pick up dramatically before landfall, the whole package has an errie feeling to it IMO.

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Isaac looks quite impressive on radar right now. The appearance continues to improve IMO.

If anything the center has been drifting south a bit over the last hour which will maximize its time over water. With cold cloud tops/intense convection continuing to wraparound the center (inner eyewall) we could see this thing continue to intensify for many more hours.

Recon confirms, latest set of observations looks to put the center at roughly 28.75N, when it was up to 29.0N not too long ago

012500 2848N 08936W 8431 01225 9684 +217 +210 119013 020 014 002 00

012530 2846N 08936W 8422 01227 9678 +220 +212 158008 010 008 001 00

012600 2845N 08937W 8431 01218 9676 +220 +214 233005 007 003 004 00

012630 2844N 08938W 8429 01221 9679 +210 +210 286010 013 008 003 01

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This is becoming more and more organized by the minute and IMO we are probably less than 6 hours away from having a well established inner core with convection completley wrapped around. Should that happen, I would expect surface winds to pick up dramatically before landfall, the whole package has an errie feeling to it IMO.

Recon says it's drifted 20 miles further from land since the last pass, this is going to be over water for a long time. ~65 miles from the true coastline now.

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Isaac looks quite impressive on radar right now. The appearance continues to improve IMO.

If anything the center has been drifting south a bit over the last hour which will maximize its time over water. With cold cloud tops/intense convection continuing to wraparound the center (inner eyewall) we could see this thing continue to intensify for many more hours.

This drifting west is giving it more time over the fuel. Certainly won't weaken anytime soon.

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This is becoming more and more organized by the minute and IMO we are probably less than 6 hours away from having a well established inner core with convection completley wrapped around. Should that happen, I would expect surface winds to pick up dramatically before landfall, the whole package has an errie feeling to it IMO.

Agreed. You can clearly see the eye contracting on radar, and combining that with the fact it is drifting further away from the coast, there is a chance that this could strengthen before finally moving on shore. Given the flight level winds that have been observed, I would imagine if this thing wraps up and does develop a true core, you could see a very rapid increase from an 80 MPH cat 1 to a 100 MPH cat 2.

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This drifting west is giving it more time over the fuel. Certainly won't weaken anytime soon.

The storm does appear to be tightening so I assume the RMW will continue to contract. With the storm drifting W/SW right now barring some type of loop with an easterly component (which is very unlikely) or a dramatic rush to the north (unlikely too) New Orleans is not going to see particularly strong winds.

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The storm does appear to be tightening so I assume the RMW will continue to contract. With the storm drifting W/SW right now barring some type of loop with an easterly component (which is very unlikely) or a dramatic rush to the north (unlikely too) New Orleans is not going to see particularly strong winds.

Those really strong winds look like they are located in that band to the south.

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