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Hurricane Isaac, Part 3 - Analysis and Forecasting Thread


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According to the Euro it has another 30+ hours to intensify, which is longer than previously thought, correct?

Keep in mind that even if the center of Isaac remains off shore, much of the northern semicircle will be over land and encountering friction. That will make transporting winds down to the surface even more difficult, if that is even possible at this point. Keep in mind that's not official, but my personal opinion.

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Does anyone think its possible this thing doesn't make landfall this evening and the models are correct? Seems far-fetched it can hang out that long

It's close already but with the eyewall starting to contract...it looks to be slowly creeping almost west for the time being.

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Keep in mind that even if the center of Isaac remains off shore, much of the northern semicircle will be over land and encountering friction. That will make transporting winds down to the surface even more difficult, if that is even possible at this point. Keep in mind that's not official, but my personal opinion.

Actually, frictional convergence should tighten the core and allow for a better wind/pressure relationship with time. We are seeing this tightening on radar and satellite already. Time to (mostly) forget the past...we are entering a new ballgame for Isaac.

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Actually, frictional convergence should tighten the core and allow for a better wind/pressure relationship with time. We are seeing this tightening on radar and satellite already. Time to (mostly) forget the past...we are entering a new ballgame for Isaac.

I do remember reading that from the experts over the past few days and from Stewart yesterday afternoon, I'm just hesitant to believe it until we get another aircraft into the system to confirm. I do believe winds should begin to consolidate towards the center, but will that help increase surface winds now that Isaac is so close to the coast? Time will tell but as you said, it is important to maintain situational awareness with Isaac and not become complacent. Thanks for the reminder!

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Keep in mind that we've already broken a record for having the lowest pre-hurricane tropical storm pressure in history, so trying to correlate the pressure verses the wind field has proven futile. Considering the pressure is at 975 millibars with 75 MPH winds, it seems reasonable that we won't be seeing sustained winds over 90 MPH and even that is pushing it. However, if the "rubber band effect" of the low pressure and low wind field breaks and we get an inner core that can develop, winds may react a bit more. Isaac is almost out of time.

Good point. Isn't sub-960 normally a Cat 3 pressure? This thing's circulation is so big, maybe that's holding back the intensification, and it's getting kind of late for the skater to pull his arms in so the spin can accelerate.

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Decent winds even far inland, Baton Rouge Gusting to 36. Boothville had 66 mph gust last hour. NO. Lakefront is almost sustained TS force.

Similar obs to what I mentioned on the obs thread. Lake Charles is gusting to 38 mph and Lafayette is gusting to 33 mph, both WELL away from the center of Isaac. Beaumont, TX is reporting gusts to 28 mph at this hour. The wind field is huge, which would help explain one of the reasons it took so long for Isaac to get together.

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The HRRR, the NAM, the NMM, and the ARW, and to some degree the Euro has a southwest jog tonight. Is this fact or fiction? It's a pretty big red flag that every mesoscale model we have is forecasting this motion tonight. Should be exciting to watch unfold.

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The HRRR, the NAM, the NMM, and the ARW, and to some degree the Euro has a southwest jog tonight. Is this fact or fiction? It's a pretty big red flag that every mesoscale model we have is forecasting this motion tonight. Should be exciting to watch unfold.

Well it's getting more time to stay over the water if that happens, so that would be interesting. Models do slow it down a bit.

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Reposting this link....freakin awesome! http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/1min/index.php?action=view_animation&req_method=nframes_enddate&enddate=20120828&endtime=1803&nframes=200&band=1&res=1&aniwidth=null&aniheight=null

Takes a bit to load, but zoom in as much as you want.....you'll actuall see the llv circ. moving in a cyclonic motion (moves nne then n then nw then w and disappears behind the CDO)

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