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E PA/NJ/DE/NE MD: Banter/Non Storm OBS thread


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Dont know about the low, but the GFS has been consistent for several days about the cold. Maybe mid-30s at KPHL. That's pretty impressive given that far out climiatology gets a big weight.

It won't be *that* cold at PHL (urban heat island will counteract a lot of that) but I can see 30's in the burbs at night IF the GFS verifies.

you can thank the huge pos pna and somewhat of an north atl ridge to.

Typhoon rule FTW. You've got a typhoon coming up through Japan that's pumping up a PNA.

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Anyways, there's a pretty marked departure between the GFS and EURO for next Sat and Sun -- the Euro is much less intense on the GFS on the strength of the trough and also is much less progressive than the GFS (not surprising as Euro holds back some energy in the Rockies).

It's a pretty anomalous trough (as the GFS has it) so I kinda think the GFS is overdoing things a fair bit on strength. Timing might be closer to reality than the EC because of that energy hang back.

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I wouldn't be surprised if we get 30's outside of the cities on Sunday morning...perhaps frost to Quakertown, East Nantmeal, and the usual suspect places that can get frost early. Philly probably can heat island enough to stay in the 40's pretty safely.

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Anyways, there's a pretty marked departure between the GFS and EURO for next Sat and Sun -- the Euro is much less intense on the GFS on the strength of the trough and also is much less progressive than the GFS (not surprising as Euro holds back some energy in the Rockies).

It's a pretty anomalous trough (as the GFS has it) so I kinda think the GFS is overdoing things a fair bit on strength. Timing might be closer to reality than the EC because of that energy hang back.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get 30's outside of the cities on Sunday morning...perhaps frost to Quakertown, East Nantmeal, and the usual suspect places that can get frost early. Philly probably can heat island enough to stay in the 40's pretty safely.

the euro ens mean though is closer to the gfs, so definitely some model wars going on.

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just thinking the same thing, almost took them out last weekend but held out because it looked so warm WED, bedroom AC will definitely be going on tonight

ran 3 miles at lunchtime & was completely drenched, only saving grace were the clouds

Our Central Air unit failed on my wife and I here at the house almost 3 weeks ago, and its just horrible here humid and all. its nearly 80 inside most of the house.

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One day last January, the low was 3... then the high was 56. No fronts involved.

Ray, of all your picture taking, have you ever snapped shots all around Elko itself, like the neighborhood where you live, schools and downtown?

I'm curious. I think you've posted a few pics. in the past.

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