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A few random observations:

1. the mosquitoes are as bad as I can ever remember. you can't even be outside in my yard during the middle of the day without being under assault

2. the acorns are big and plentiful and dropping already.....could it mean big winter?

3. geese are already starting to fly south....been seeing a lot of them this week

4. big hairy catepillars are out too....another cold sign?

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A few random observations:

1. the mosquitoes are as bad as I can ever remember. you can't even be outside in my yard during the middle of the day without being under assault

2. the acorns are big and plentiful and dropping already.....could it mean big winter?

3. geese are already starting to fly south....been seeing a lot of them this week

4. big hairy catepillars are out too....another cold sign?

I've noticed the geese, too. Last fall, they sat on their lazy butts until after winter started. They're behaving very differently so far this year, but it might just be a coincidence.

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A few random observations:

1. the mosquitoes are as bad as I can ever remember. you can't even be outside in my yard during the middle of the day without being under assault

2. the acorns are big and plentiful and dropping already.....could it mean big winter?

3. geese are already starting to fly south....been seeing a lot of them this week

4. big hairy catepillars are out too....another cold sign?

I agree with you with about 80% confidence on points 2, 3, and 4. Usually, nature does things for a reason. As far as the mosquitoes, same here, and I believe the reason is that we didn't get cold enough for long enough times last winter to really freeze everything out.

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Just seems really early for the acorns and the geese. Now I'm just waiting on the stink bug invasion.

Hopefully the old wives tales have some validity this cold season.

The Tiger type mosquitoes are the worst. They are massive and very aggressive.....even in broad daylight during the heat of the day. We really need a cold long cold snap this winter to trim down their numbers for next year.

I agree with you with about 80% confidence on points 2, 3, and 4. Usually, nature does things for a reason. As far as the mosquitoes, same here, and I believe the reason is that we didn't get cold enough for long enough times last winter to really freeze everything out.

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Acorns and caterpillars have nothing to do with the following winter. Trees, for example, usually produce plentiful seeds when they are stressed. So its PAST weather, not FUTURE weather, which the plentiful seeds are indicative of. Plus, oaks go through cycles where every few years they have "mast years" with many acorns. Which again has nothing to do with FUTURE weather.

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Acorns and caterpillars have nothing to do with the following winter. Trees, for example, usually produce plentiful seeds when they are stressed. So its PAST weather, not FUTURE weather, which the plentiful seeds are indicative of. Plus, oaks go through cycles where every few years they have "mast years" with many acorns. Which again has nothing to do with FUTURE weather.

Agree, Squirrels burying the acorns is another matter. They are going to town with the butternuts this year, so acorns will be next. The best indicator of a cold winter is if the first snowfall lands on unfrozen ground, winter shall be mild. Last year, fit this to the tee The ground frozen however indicates a prolong period of cold weather which prohibits animals from recovering their buried nuts and berries so easily and also permits snow to stay on the ground longer, increasing the albedo time for snow cover to melt and allowing further lowering of temps at night, increasing the chances of more snow.

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Agree, Squirrels burying the acorns is another matter. They are going to town with the butternuts this year, so acorns will be next. The best indicator of a cold winter is if the first snowfall lands on unfrozen ground, winter shall be mild. Last year, fit this to the tee The ground frozen however indicates a prolong period of cold weather which prohibits animals from recovering their buried nuts and berries so easily and also permits snow to stay on the ground longer, increasing the albedo time for snow cover to melt and allowing further lowering of temps at night, increasing the chances of more snow.

Your unfrozen ground theory didn't work in 95-96...

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Your unfrozen ground theory didn't work in 95-96...

Hell, not every storm follows the theory but it was close. 95-96 was unusual in all aspects- thats like saying we never get 30 inches of snow and yet we still received that amount during that time frame. I would have never believed that it could rain over two inches on a 30 inch snow base and melt it all only to snow another foot days later. Never expect the unexpected. My theory though is usually true in a normal weather pattern.

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As Billy Crystal would say a "marvelous" beach day down at North Wildwood this afternoon, water is still warm in the low 70's and the waves were really nice with that north wind curling up the swells

Blah first weekend in 2 months I'm not down there and looks like a perfect weekend.....Damn Hockey season had to start already.

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