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Upstate NY/North Country + adjacent ON, QC, VT: Meteorological fall is here


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Even where the band was at it's best here, it actually suffered all day from poor snow growth. We mostly had the little soft snowballs...and ice pellets mixed on occasion. There was a few times when we managed mixed dendrites. The omega never quite effectively punched the dendritic SGZ. The snow on the ground has that "baking powder" appearance.

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Even where the band was at it's best here, it actually suffered all day from poor snow growth. We mostly had the little soft snowballs...and ice pellets mixed on occasion. There was a few times when we managed mixed dendrites. The omega never quite effectively punched the dendritic SGZ. The snow on the ground has that "baking powder" appearance.

same here. That bands definitly dying as its drifting south. Maybe if I'm lucky ill pick up another inch. Wish I was at the girlfriends in West Seneca for this one.
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6" on the nose in West Seneca. Did very well. Band just stalled over here.

Awesome, nice total. Seems like West Seneca attracts some of the best bands. I swear its better to live in West Seneca then OP/Hamburg/Eden most of the time. Something magical causes the bands to stall out over that location more times then none. ^_^

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Small strip just south of buffalo to west seneca got 5-7 inches. Not to bad for the first LES event of the season!

NEW YORK

...ERIE COUNTY...

1 SE BUFFALO 7.0 517 PM 11/25 PUBLIC

1 S BUFFALO 6.2 742 PM 11/25 TRAINED SPOTTER

2 S WEST SENECA 4.5 756 PM 11/25 FACEBOOK

WEST SENECA 4.5 630 PM 11/25 FACEBOOK

DEPEW 4.0 500 PM 11/25 NWS EMPLOYEE

ALDEN 3.0 507 PM 11/25 NWS EMPLOYEE

ORCHARD PARK 2.5 730 PM 11/25 FACEBOOK

2 SSW BLASDELL 2.5 1245 PM 11/25 COCORAHS

3 WSW ELMA 2.2 1245 PM 11/25 COCORAHS

NY BUFFALO INTL ARPT 2.0 758 PM 11/25 ASOS

SWORMVILLE 1.0 643 PM 11/25 NWS EMPLOYEE

...LEWIS COUNTY...

LOWVILLE 4.0 735 PM 11/25 FACEBOOK

...NIAGARA COUNTY...

NORTH TONAWANDA 0.4 526 PM 11/25 CO-OP OBSERVER

...OSWEGO COUNTY...

1 NE PULASKI 10.0 608 PM 11/25 TRAINED SPOTTER

9 E LACONA 7.0 600 PM 11/25 COCORAHS

FULTON 5.0 400 PM 11/25 COCORAHS

WEST MONROE 3.0 720 PM 11/25 FACEBOOK

OSWEGO 2.0 743 PM 11/25 FACEBOOK

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Melting back fast here in Boonville, even after a cold forecast (since revised)- and with the AO going strongly negative!

It's time to acknowledge the effect of northern ice on mid-latitude winter. The old models aren't keeping up....

I'm still going with the Wooly Bears.

We were flooded with Pacific air almost all of last year...the state of the ice on the Atlantic side has a minimal effect on us here in the NE....

If you pump up a ridge over the mountains, we get cold....simple as that. Look at the E. AK/NW Territories departures. We could get slapped in the face in a real hurry!

Our melting snow is more a figment of it still being early season and having a recently relatively mild stretch of weather.

BTW....someone is going to cash in tonight pretty good, E. of Ontario....

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We were flooded with Pacific air almost all of last year...the state of the ice on the Atlantic side has a minimal effect on us here in the NE....

If you pump up a ridge over the mountains, we get cold....simple as that. Look at the E. AK/NW Territories departures. We could get slapped in the face in a real hurry!

Our melting snow is more a figment of it still being early season and having a recently relatively mild stretch of weather.

BTW....someone is going to cash in tonight pretty good, E. of Ontario....

think NWS may need to issue some headlines?
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We were flooded with Pacific air almost all of last year...the state of the ice on the Atlantic side has a minimal effect on us here in the NE....

If you pump up a ridge over the mountains, we get cold....simple as that. Look at the E. AK/NW Territories departures. We could get slapped in the face in a real hurry!

Our melting snow is more a figment of it still being early season and having a recently relatively mild stretch of weather.

BTW....someone is going to cash in tonight pretty good, E. of Ontario....

Very well said George, The first third of the winter was forecasted to be warmer than average....with the second half to 2/3 being a colder than average...with the ENSO neutral we will see warm ups and cool downs all winter. But I still think the eastern NYS and southern NE will see a bit above average this year.....with the snowbelts coming in around average.

I hope you're right.....but it looks like 2 to 5 for the Tug.....at least IMO

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