tacoman25 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 This year is doing very well right now...the last year that seemed to be this robust at this point was 2006 (didn't turn out so well for winter though) followed by 2002. 2009 absolutely exploded though between now and the end of the month. At this point though, 2009 wasn't at the levels of this year...but the next week or so it went gangbusters. Really after 10/22/09. This year looks like it could go ganbusters too over the next 10 days, but we'll just have to wait and see. 2009 was pretty special in that regard...this year's pattern looks favorable, but it doesn't guarantee it will go nuts. Cool, thanks. 2006-07 was a great winter here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Cool, thanks. 2006-07 was a great winter here. It was an epic dud for most on this board. I never like seeing anything happening this year being compared to 2001, 2006, or 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It was an epic dud for most on this board. I never like seeing anything happening this year being compared to 2001, 2006, or 2007 Yeah, I know. But I don't think it ever hurts anything to see rapid snowcover growth at this time. Obviously a lot of other factors come into play for the following winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 No one knows this? I am curious if other recent years have seen the snow cover recover this quickly to above normal. sorry taco here is the link http://moe.met.fsu.edu/snow/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Good, maybe I can get out from under the thumb of this drought and low water levels and actually get something worth a damn planted next year. I'd like to see another basin-busting snow cover similar to spring 2010 and 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 NH snowcover continues to be well above normal. Has been for about 3 weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I thought this blog post on Tamino's page would put some good perspective on the snow situation. http://tamino.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/extreme-denial/ WUWT regular “just the facts” is equally eager to trivialize trends in snow cover: While none of the Snow plots offers a global perspective, when looking at the Northern Hemisphere, there appears to have been a slight increase in Snowcover and Winter Snow Extent, a decrease in Spring Snow Extent and no change in Fall Snow Extent over the historical record. That “slight increase” in winter snow cover is not statistically significant: The number at the top (6) is the estimated trend rate in thousands of km^2 per year, while the number in parentheses (15) is the standard error of the trend estimate. The trend isn’t even close to being significant. The trend in fall snow cover is flat as a pancake: But the trend in spring snow decline is definitely significant: What WUWT regular “just the facts” doesn’t show is snow cover data for summer. That’s probably because nobody plotted it for him — none of the plots are his own. I’m happy to oblige: This reminds me of the Antarctica vs Arctic stuff back in Sept. The changes are night and day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Good example of a trend that can almost certainly be linked to AGW. Unlike many of the other things people on here try to link to AGW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT450R Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Northern Hemisphere snow cover was the highest for December since records began in 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Northern Hemisphere snow cover was the highest for December since records began in 1966. nhland12.png Surprised to see the "sulfate cooled 70's" had the worst snow cover since records began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Northern Hemisphere snow cover was the highest for December since records began in 1966. nhland12.png This makes sense given how much of head start things are off too in the upper lats and upper mid lats. the big test will come with Spring and if this can be a negative feedback at all to slow the eradication process and cool off the N.H. a bit during Spring when radiative forcing continues to get stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Northern Hemisphere snow cover was the highest for December since records began in 1966. nhland12.png Back a few years ago like 2006-2008 or so. Speculation was more robust that winter snow cover would increase, even snow depth in places and maybe it would be a negative feedback. But so far it seems between it's peak and Spring it get's overwhelmed completely. I still think there is a shot, maybe we haven't seen the actual depth ramp up quite as far as it will with this idea and it's impact not met yet. This year will be interesting because it could again go from record high to record low by June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard1024 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I have a simple question. In the summer, do they count the snow cover on the sea ice as snow cover??? Or is it just land snow cover??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I have a simple question. In the summer, do they count the snow cover on the sea ice as snow cover??? Or is it just land snow cover??? The charts above do not include sea ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard1024 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The charts above do not include sea ice. I have read that the snow cover on the sea ice is counted which would explain why the snowcover has been so low in the summer. This is false then. thanks for clearing this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I have read that the snow cover on the sea ice is counted which would explain why the snowcover has been so low in the summer. This is false then. thanks for clearing this up. They include ice as snow cover on the FSU site but not the Rutgers data which is what NCDC uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard1024 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 They include ice as snow cover on the FSU site but not the Rutgers data which is what NCDC uses. Ok. that is good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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