OKpowdah Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 What are the most anomalous events New England has experienced in say the last ten years? This isn't just listing a strong storm, or one that was one of your favorites for whatever reason, but specifically events that we have experienced that have an exceptionally low return frequency. So this includes any extreme events ... snowfall, floods, temp extremes, wind, etc. I'll start: 1) October 2011 snowstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 1) October 2011 snowstorm 2) Mothers day flood 2006? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Brutal May noreaster 2005..in an awful, awful spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 Also anyone who is well experienced with climatology of anomalous events, it would be cool to see an estimation of the return frequency of events we come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Well, Its not the last 10 years, But the Ice Storm of 1998 leaves a lasting impression here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 June 1st, 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Jan '04 cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 June 1st, 2011. There's been other tor's like that and stronger..not anomolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 The flooding from Irene in Vermont. The entire state got hammered. Even today I just took these pictures from my old stomping grounds (first time I went back to the Camels Hump region since the storm) and Irene's flooding literally changed the landscape in one 24 hour period. This was an event that nature will have a hard time topping in terms of flooding and the raw power of swift water. Every stream, river, gully in Vermont was pretty much altered in a way that should take a hundred years of gentle erosion, not just one 24 hour period. And its everywhere you go. This was just today in Duxbury... This is not a creek or river, this is just the rubble left from Irene when water was everywhere, just flowing rubble and rocks through driveways and yards. All of these rocks are not supposed to be here. Just imagine flooding where boulders are being pushed down through your yard. This is a stream bed created by Irene that may not see flowing water for what, another hundred years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 June 1st, 2011. What do you think, like a 15yr-20yr return period on average if you include ENY? 2011, 1998, 1995, 1979, 1973, 1953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 There's been other tor's like that and stronger..not anomolous The hell that wasn't anomalous. Sure not the most anomalous but it certainly was. F3's/borderline F4's aren't exactly that common here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 What do you think, like a 15yr-20yr return period on average if you include ENY? 2011, 1998, 1995, 1979, 1973, 1953 Are we basing this off of tornadoes rated an (E)F 3 or stronger? If so, perhaps I would think more like 10-15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 My top 5 in order of most anomalous: 1. October 29-30, 2011 snowstorm 2. January 2004 cold 3. MA tornado 6/1/11 4. December 2008 ice storm 5. March 2012 warmth I could have missed something more obvious, but I did it quickly in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 March 2010 flooding in RI ECT, some thoughts in RI were 1-500, areas flooded had not flooded in modern records. 1978 Blizzard 1-100 1888 1717 being similar 1993 Superstorm, combination of elements 1-100 March 2011 heat wave 1-25 ,1976 April similar departure and length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 One everyone is forgetting and probably the biggest in our history.. 1938 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 My top 5 in order of most anomalous: 1. October 29-30, 2011 snowstorm 2. January 2004 cold 3. MA tornado 6/1/11 4. December 2008 ice storm 5. March 2012 warmth I could have missed something more obvious, but I did it quickly in my head. Good call on Dec. 08 I would think the return period of the 2006 flooding would be a lot greater than June 1, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 My top 5 in order of most anomalous: 1. October 29-30, 2011 snowstorm 2. January 2004 cold 3. MA tornado 6/1/11 4. December 2008 ice storm 5. March 2012 warmth I could have missed something more obvious, but I did it quickly in my head. Kevin said no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 One everyone is forgetting and probably the biggest in our history.. 1938 In the last 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 In the last 10 years Oh I didn't see that. Who cares about the last 10 yrs Should be in history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 My top 5 in order of most anomalous: 1. October 29-30, 2011 snowstorm 2. January 2004 cold 3. MA tornado 6/1/11 4. December 2008 ice storm 5. March 2012 warmth I could have missed something more obvious, but I did it quickly in my head. That ice storm for your area was pretty darn anomalous... I forgot about that but the damage that caused in parts of SNE/CNE was insane. Those trees won't feel something like that for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 The Mother's day flooding was 1-200yrs in some spots. That ranks pretty high. Locally, the folks in RI and SE MA would probably have late March 2010 in that category too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 That ice storm was freaking crazy...that was the first major event I did with the skywarn team...radios and scanners were going absolutely nuts. The period from 1 AM to about 7 AM honestly felt like 2 hours. What also is forgotten about that storm is besides the damage going on in MA/NH there actually was major wind/flooding occurring in RI/SE CT/SE MA in the warm sector with incredibly strong winds and major coastal flooding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Good call on Dec. 08 I would think the return period of the 2006 flooding would be a lot greater than June 1, no? Yeah for some spots 2006 was pretty darn anomalous...I didn't think of that one. June 1, 2011 was rare though...it tracked like 41 miles...so aside from being a strong EF3, the track is taken into consideration. MA tornadoes rarely track longer than a few miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Ice storm is right there..absolutely. Not sure how to rank this, but I don't know when the interior will ever see a synoptic windstorm like this. The big Feb 2010 retro storm. IIRC, it topped the Bliz of '78 storm surge, but happened at low tide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I would add the January 1998 ice storm to the list, that was a catastrophe for Maine. I was at Sugarloaf at the time and the damage to the area just to our south was tremendous. I have heard that the surge of warmth that far north was very anomolous. It was in the high 40's near the summit of Sugarloaf and 17F at the base with rain at the summit and freezing rain/sleet at the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Jan '04 very well may never be seen in our lifetimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 January 2005 blizzard is highly anomalous for the Cape. 80mph winds and 3' of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 June 1, 2011 was rare though...it tracked like 41 miles...so aside from being a strong EF3, the track is taken into consideration. MA tornadoes rarely track longer than a few miles. Yeah from the path length perspective there are only a handful that come to mind... 2008 Epsom NH '53 obviously That 1821 NH tornado folks were discussing on the board recently 1989 had a 42 mile track in NY. Hampden CT was a short track but very strong on the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Jan '04 very well may never be seen in our lifetimes. How much stranger was that than March 2012? (not good with SD's, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Last week of May through June of 1998...more of PA/NY but that one month period was INSANE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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