Mr Torchey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Wonder how many homes are totally destroyed. Blows Irene away. Story wont be told for days Steve. What an absolute relentless beating this area is taking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 images from plaq parish of water to rooftops is just awful. Surge into bay st louis is 9,4 Post some links for the folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Post some links for the folks. Video is on weather channel Tide gauge link available in the storm report thread for all to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Kyle looking like a fish but a beautiful fish for labor day weekend northeast surf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 My mother in law lives in Moss Point MS, about 5 miles from the coast, she said it wasn't too bad last night, waiting to hear from her today. They appear to be getting a lot of rain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Cantore was doing push ups in 70 mph winds....lol Weird to see how far along this live coverage has come....repoters using ipads to see radar, gfs and ecmwf being used to public. Back in the day u were lucky to get a avn update.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Here is a scanner feed from Plaq Parrish http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1146 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I don't think that's surprising, however. The levees there are the same as they were pre-Katrina. The storm's slow motion and impressive wind field would result in serious storm surge. If you look at Plaquemines Parish on a map it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that it flooded! Yes there will be serious flood damage in vulnerable areas but not something that was unexpected. A catastrophe is not in the making though of course if you're house is flooded than it is a catastrophe. We won't see "unrivaled" damage and we really won't see anything remotely close to Katrina. The new levees around New Orleans and the existing levees on the other side of Ponch are holding. In addition MRGO appears OK as well. From that I can tell outside of Grand Isle (which had serious wind damage... not surprising with sustained hurricane for hours) and Plaquemines parish things are going very well. Small caveat being that some places will see impacts greater than Katrina. And that will be used in typical hyperbolic fashion by media outlets to trump up Isaac for the entire area. Plaquemines Parish was always going to see much greater storm surge from Isaac than Katrina, because they were always in line to experience onshore winds this time around. 12' surge is really little surprise there, and right in line with 48+ hour forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 In case there is anyone who has not seen this. This is a live stream from Bart Comstock: http://content.wdtinc.com/popout/index.php?M=13233&C=20485&O=10212 He is right at the northern edge of the eye wall. See it on the map here: http://imap.tv/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Plaquemines totally flooded, the plaquemines parish president, who the army corps assured would be totally safe ended up in his attic with his family. http://www.wwltv.com...27&ref=rcvidmod Those statements the army corps was making last night weren't right factually or morally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Small caveat being that some places will see impacts greater than Katrina. And that will be used in typical hyperbolic fashion by media outlets to trump up Isaac for the entire area. Plaquemines Parish was always going to see much greater storm surge from Isaac than Katrina, because they were always in line to experience onshore winds this time around. 12' surge is really little surprise there, and right in line with 48+ hour forecasts. Yes, you're correct. I should have been more clear. Given the storm's location areas like that will get hit quite hard. This, however, was all very well forecasted and in line with expectations of what a slow moving legit cat 1 could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 And as far as sparsley populated, Plaq Parish has a population of 23K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The levees down in P Parish weren't even finished being rebuilt from what I gather. Reports say it's toppling 8' levees. Well, no kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yes, you're correct. I should have been more clear. Given the storm's location areas like that will get hit quite hard. This, however, was all very well forecasted and in line with expectations of what a slow moving legit cat 1 could do. Absolutely false. Army Corps of Engineers told parish president that levees would hold in PP and there was nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 And as far as as sparsley populated Plaq Parish has a population of 23K. Yes, spread out over an area that is half the size of Connecticut. Exceptionally rural down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Video and interview now on the weather channel, man sitting on roof waiting for rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Absolutely false. Army Corps of Engineers told parish president that levees would hold in PP and there was nothing to worry about. Please stop. A storm surge of up to 12 feet was expected and the parish was under a mandatory evacuation. The levee did "hold" in that it did not breach however it was overtopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Please stop. A storm surge of up to 12 feet was expected and the parish was under a mandatory evacuation. The levee did "hold" in that it did not breach however it was overtopped. Out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Please stop. A storm surge of up to 12 feet was expected and the parish was under a mandatory evacuation. The levee did "hold" in that it did not breach however it was overtopped. The army corp of engineers was interviewed last night and said there was no threat of flooding from breached or overtopped levees. In fact a little over 8 pm gave the PP the "all clear". Its well documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The army corp of engineers was interviewed last night and said there was no threat of flooding from breached or overtopped levees. In fact a little over 8 pm gave the PP the "all clear". Its well documented. I heard that. The Army Corps can answer for that. The forecast, however, indicated significant storm surge flooding in that area and there was a mandatory evacuation. Why a PR guy from the Army Corps was on TWC giving people information on how to stay safe is the better question. I don't think anyone... given the track... is surprised by what's happening in Plaquemines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The army corp of engineers was interviewed last night and said there was no threat of flooding from breached or overtopped levees. In fact a little over 8 pm gave the PP the "all clear". Its well documented. I heard that live on TWC, yes indeed he absolutely said exactly what you quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The downplaying of a serious situation by some are nauseating and irresponsible. Nothing but facts in this thread, if thats no big deal, and this is a typical cat 1 then so be it. My heart goes out to all those that have once again have lost everything, I pray there is no loss of life, really too bad the project to reinforce the levees further south was not completed, it would have made all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Please stop. A storm surge of up to 12 feet was expected and the parish was under a mandatory evacuation. The levee did "hold" in that it did not breach however it was overtopped. Uh no SPECIAL 08/29/12 06:34 (PARISH-WIDE - ) ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS REPORTING A BREACH / POSSIBLY BROKEN LEVY CAUSING FLOODING TO THE AREA [NHA057] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I heard that live on TWC, yes indeed he absolutely said exactly what you quoted. Yes... I heard it as well. Why a PR person at the Army Corps was on TWC giving emergency managers information second hand is mind boggling. Why it was a surprise to the Army Corps that hours of SE fetch could cause the MS river to back up and overtop a levee is equally surprising. However it seems that the Parish did tell people to get out prior to the storm and forecasts indicated a severe storm surge there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Uh no SPECIAL 08/29/12 06:34 (PARISH-WIDE - ) ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS REPORTING A BREACH / POSSIBLY BROKEN LEVY CAUSING FLOODING TO THE AREA [NHA057] Fine... this will be Katrina. Cat 3 damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fine... this will be Katrina. Cat 3 damage. Weenies will always hear and believe what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 lol some in this thread, You would think its a cat 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fine... this will be Katrina. Cat 3 damage. just posting facts man. See its this super hype or downplay. Noone here said Katrina but its not Gustav either. Take your ball and go home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fine... this will be Katrina. Cat 3 damage. quoted so kev can troll you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fine... this will be Katrina. Cat 3 damage. Weenies will always hear and believe what they want. lol some in this thread, You would think its a cat 5 just posting facts man. See its this super hype or downplay. Noone here said Katrina but its not Gustav either. Take your ball and go home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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