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Fire at a PCB facility in NY state causing CT and MA EOC's to monitor plume cloud in Berkshire and Litchfield counties. I guess the hot zone within 12 miles of the facility residents are being told to stay indoors, and keep windows shut and AC off. Anyone seeing this Plume cloud on sat?

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Fire at a PCB facility in NY state causing CT and MA EOC's to monitor plume cloud in Berkshire and Litchfield counties. I guess the hot zone within 12 miles of the facility residents are being told to stay indoors, and keep windows shut and AC off. Anyone seeing this Plume cloud on sat?

Does not appear so.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/box/flash-vis.html

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Well to be fair you said +2 or better. That's a large range. I had 1.3-1.9 so I'm pretty happy for that range. Someone can do the math to see what the deal is. BOX can mess up too with that.

BOX still has the error high temp for 7/27...they had fixed it on the CLI but in the F6 data its still erroneous for some reason.

Even the number they currently have looks like a +1.8F...the avg temp for BOS in the 1981-2010 normals for July looks like 73.6 while the average temp for July 2012 was 75.4F...that would be +1.8, not +2.0...even with the erroneous high temp. (which only affects the overall monthly temp by +0.03)

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BOX still has the error high temp for 7/27...they had fixed it on the CLI but in the F6 data its still erroneous for some reason.

Even the number they currently have looks like a +1.8F...the avg temp for BOS in the 1981-2010 normals for July looks like 73.6 while the average temp for July 2012 was 75.4F...that would be +1.8, not +2.0...even with the erroneous high temp. (which only affects the overall monthly temp by +0.03)

Yeah that's what I saw when Brian pointed it out. I wonder why it's still on there.

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I'd rather it produce something than dying cumulus reaching the cap. We are in swamp weather through early next week with good chances for rain. Actually, the pattern is working out well to what some of us were mentioning 2 weeks ago. Hopefully a much nicer atmosphere by end of next week.

I'd rather forgo the humidity and showers all together and just be comfy......the reward in this pattern is to be left sweating without power.

*Fingers crossed.

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Yeah that's what I saw when Brian pointed it out. I wonder why it's still on there.

I just summed all the highs and lows took the average and then averaged it over 31 days and still get 75.32258 (rounded 75.3) for the monthly average temp. That is including the erroneous 79F high on 7/27...that high shouldn't even matter. For some reason the average for the month is listed at 75.4.

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I would rather be comfy too, but if we are stuck with this.....might as well get something out of it.

You called this pretty well in advance... no high heat but just humid with mild nights resulting in above normal average daily temps and low diurnal temperature swings. Like 84/67 type stuff.

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I just summed all the highs and lows took the average and then averaged it over 31 days and still get 75.32258 (rounded 75.3) for the monthly average temp. That is including the erroneous 79F high on 7/27...that high shouldn't even matter. For some reason the average for the month is listed at 75.4.

It's weird. Makes me wonder about previous months.

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You called this pretty well in advance... no high heat but just humid with mild nights resulting in above normal average daily temps and low diurnal temperature swings. Like 84/67 type stuff.

Models did a good job pegging this. Hopefully they are right later next week and again maybe after mid month.

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It's weird. Makes me wonder about previous months.

Its also pretty tough for it to be +2.1F on the month after 30 days, then put up a -6 for the day and only go down 0.1F to +2.0...that should actually cause the departure to go down -0.2667

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Its also pretty tough for it to be +2.1F on the month after 30 days, then put up a -6 for the day and only go down 0.1F to +2.0...that should actually cause the departure to go down -0.2667

Isn't this stuff usually QCd? In a time where every tenth even hundredth of a degree is used in climate change debates, I would think a 5 min QC check would suffice. Even an intern can do it.

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Big blobs of oranges and reds at work at Norwood yesterday and not one clap of thunder. Tiny little shower nearby now, and there was just a clap of thunder.

I see that cell to my southwest. East wind here now, so maybe it fires more storms.

Yeah, storm blew through OWD and dropped the temp from 89 to 79.

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i feel like more often than not you have to respect the global models when they crap out a TC into an open wave...especially when they are heading into a region that is notorious for destroying marginal systems.

I know it. I don't know if I quite believe the euro, but even the GFS is meh as it crosses the carb. Tough forecast.

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i feel like more often than not you have to respect the global models when they crap out a TC into an open wave...especially when they are heading into a region that is notorious for destroying marginal systems.

I think also, they are hinting at the Cape Verde season starting in earnest.

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