CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I hope the GFS is right later next weekend. And the euro op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 And the euro op. What are they showing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 What are they showing? Touch of early fall Sun-Tue. Comfy dry 70s with cool nights for us. Hopefully it pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 KFS will say no on its next run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 They need to lengthen their runway though to lure more commercial airlines in there...the ILS may convince some of them to come in anyway...they did get their main runway to like exactly 7,000 feet. There is so much time the airport is shrouded in fog. There's also a 110 foot hill less than 1 mile short of the runway when coming in from the 290 direction on the main runway. Most planes actually land in from the 110 direction because of that. 7000 feet is more than enough. Key West handles several 737's a day on their bird infested flood prone 4801' x 100' runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 7000 feet is more than enough. Key West handles several 737's a day on their bird infested flood prone 4801' x 100' runway. Well ORH needs a bit longer of a runway because of 1000' elevation, but it's not like Denver or anything. I think there is some sort of a formula for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 7000 feet is more than enough. Key West handles several 737's a day on their bird infested flood prone 4801' x 100' runway. With conditions so frequently (compared to other areas) requiring IFR...major commercial airlines refused to land there with a runway under 7,000 feet. They used to have continental airlines and US Air back in the 1990s but both left for that reason IIRC. They also didn't like the higher landing fees for an airport where so many flights would have to get diverted or delayed. Perhaps the installment of a good ILS will cause convince them to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 With conditions so frequently (compared to other areas) requiring IFR...major commercial airlines refused to land there with a runway under 7,000 feet. They used to have continental airlines and US Air back in the 1990s but both left for that reason IIRC. They also didn't like the higher landing fees for an airport where so many flights would have to get diverted or delayed. Perhaps the installment of a good ILS will cause convince them to return. I see. Interesting. Guess I should probably give up hope of ever getting commercial service back into LCI. They've got a sparkling new 5890' runway and daily service to Logan would be nice. LEB has service to NYC and I'm jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I see. Interesting. Guess I should probably give up hope of ever getting commercial service back into LCI. They've got a sparkling new 5890' runway and daily service to Logan would be nice. LEB has service to NYC and I'm jealous. ILS definitely would open the door up to bring those guys back...question for them is whether or not it's feasible for them given the amount of attention it may or may not get. Regarding LCI...never knew it carried commercial traffic. What a way to be traffic if you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 ILS definitely would open the door up to bring those guys back...question for them is whether or not it's feasible for them given the amount of attention it may or may not get. Regarding LCI...never knew it carried commercial traffic. What a way to be traffic if you can do it. If they are really getting ILS at ORH, I'd be shocked if at least one commercial airline didn't return. The airport would definitely get sufficient business to run a few flights out of there...their staples would probably be NYC/PHL/DCA like back when they were there in the 1980s/1990s. Though they had started running service to ATL too in the 1990s shortly prior to leaving...which isn't surprising since ATL has become a big business city int he past 2 decades. The only minor problem for ORH is that there isn't a really fast highway in and out of the airport. There has always been talk of extending Rt 146 up to the airport if they ever got commercial airlines back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 An incredible beach weekend! The good life.........ahhhh to be young again:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 If they are really getting ILS at ORH, I'd be shocked if at least one commercial airline didn't return. The airport would definitely get sufficient business to run a few flights out of there...their staples would probably be NYC/PHL/DCA like back when they were there in the 1980s/1990s. Though they had started running service to ATL too in the 1990s shortly prior to leaving...which isn't surprising since ATL has become a big business city int he past 2 decades. The only minor problem for ORH is that there isn't a really fast highway in and out of the airport. There has always been talk of extending Rt 146 up to the airport if they ever got commercial airlines back there. That's a good point. It can be a pain crossing the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 The ensembles have a nice pattern for most of the northern CONUS. A well deserved break for many. Probably not refreshing air all the time, but certainly looks like periodic breaks and a bit of a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 The ensembles have a nice pattern for most of the northern CONUS. A well deserved break for many. Probably not refreshing air all the time, but certainly looks like periodic breaks and a bit of a change. Be careful how you phrase it... sneaky dews may invade a certain state in New England and then the torch twins will be all over you 82/59 and it feels nice to have these dews drop a bit from the mid/upper 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 The ensembles have a nice pattern for most of the northern CONUS. A well deserved break for many. Probably not refreshing air all the time, but certainly looks like periodic breaks and a bit of a change. Sounds nice for you guys, after 70 dews here from tuesday evening thru this morning I know a lot of people are ready for some drier air! Thankfully dews should be 70-77 back home for the vacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Be careful how you phrase it... sneaky dews may invade a certain state in New England and then the torch twins will be all over you 82/59 and it feels nice to have these dews drop a bit from the mid/upper 60s. Yeah they'll interpret that post as if I meant 60s and 70s with dry air the whole time. Does seem like somewhat of a change is coming..starting early next week perhaps. Especially applies in the Great lakes region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Nice 59 dew at BDL. Drier air moving in from the WSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Dew is still 70 here and another shower moving through, 3rd one of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 71 dew still here..Front just washed out for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 71 dew still here..Front just washed out for all Prbabably means a 62 dew. You'll have lower dews than here for the next couple of days I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Nice 59 dew at BDL. Drier air moving in from the WSW. Yeah 59F up here too... slightly drier air moving in. Still a bit humid but nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Nice 59 dew at BDL. Drier air moving in from the WSW. Most humid summer ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Yeah they'll interpret that post as if I meant 60s and 70s with dry air the whole time. Does seem like somewhat of a change is coming..starting early next week perhaps. Especially applies in the Great lakes region. Yeah some good cool shots on the long range... especially the midwest/GL like you mentioned. Still some good chilly sub 10C H85 air on the GFS for a good chunk of the extended. Here's the EURO's refreshing air at day 5: Here's the GFS at the same time next Friday... refreshing into the Great Lakes for sure. And a week from now... nice refreshing high pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 With more fropas...could mean some storm chances so it's a good thing I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I don't know what the op run is doing..but ensembles are warmer and less deep with that trough and keep us in s flow much of the time thru day 14. Fropas yes..but no cool shots. All in the GL and midwest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Td of 66F here .... dropping slightly Spent some time in the pool. Lower sun angle (trees now block it at times) and lots of clouds, rain, have done a number on the water temp. Much cooler now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I don't know what the op run is doing..but ensembles are warmer and less deep with that trough and keep us in s flow much of the time thru day 14. Fropas yes..but no cool shots. All in the GL and midwest In all honesty I agree with you for the most part. I wouldn't say "no cool shots" as we could end up with a 1-2 day cool down, but in general that trough takes its sweet time moving east and we are left with several days late this week and next weekend with moist southerly flow ahead of the trough. Could see another period of relatively wet weather and the models seem to be showing a good deal of QPF popping up where ever that frontal boundary sets up between the cooler air west and moist southerly flow air east. This is something though where New York State may see a decent cool down out near BUF-ROC and even heading up this way eventually in NW New England, while SNE and eastern New England stay muggy. GFS has like 2 days where H85 temps vary quite a bit from NW to SE across New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 It's a big city with a decent metro population..especially on the east side of it. Having some flights in and out would be a good thing, but it won't be like a PVD, BDL, or MHT. Well where would you expect flights to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well where would you expect flights to go? Well like Will said....short trips to close major cities for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 In all honesty I agree with you for the most part. I wouldn't say "no cool shots" as we could end up with a 1-2 day cool down, but in general that trough takes its sweet time moving east and we are left with several days late this week and next weekend with moist southerly flow ahead of the trough. Could see another period of relatively wet weather and the models seem to be showing a good deal of QPF popping up where ever that frontal boundary sets up between the cooler air west and moist southerly flow air east. This is something though where New York State may see a decent cool down out near BUF-ROC and even heading up this way eventually in NW New England, while SNE and eastern New England stay muggy. GFS has like 2 days where H85 temps vary quite a bit from NW to SE across New England. Footsteps are growing louder for a change in airmasses across the GL and northeast I think. Might not last long, but this is the first "cool shot" into the CONUS in quote a long time. Here in SNE, the cool air may run out of gas somewhat....but I expect somewhat of a cooler and drier shot of air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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