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This sounds like some on here have been discussing..return to high humidity and severe

* HUMID WEATHER RETURNS WEDNESDAY...LINGERING THROUGH THE WEEKEND.

* A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WEDNESDAY THRU SATURDAY.

* FAIR WEATHER RETURNS FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY.

DETAILS...

WEDNESDAY...

A SOUTHWEST FLOW AT THE SURFACE /IN ADVANCE OF A COLD FRONT TO THE

WEST OF NEW YORK STATE/ WILL BRING A RETURN TO UNCOMFORTABLE

HUMIDITY LEVELS OVER SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND. THERE IS A CHANCE OF

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS /MAINLY OVER THE INTERIOR/. THE BEST

INSTABILITY REMAINS TO THE NORTH/WEST OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND.

NEVERTHELESS...CAPES ARE PROGGED TO APPROACH 1000 J/KG BUT BULK

SHEAR VALUES ARE ONLY AROUND 25 KNOTS...SO EXPECTING GENERAL

THUNDERSTORMS WITH SOME HEAVY DOWNPOURS. THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD BE

DIURNALLY DRIVEN AND DIMINISH SHORTLY AFTER SUNSET.

THURSDAY...

A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST AND IS EXPECTED TO BE IN THE

VICINITY OF THE HUDSON VALLEY BY 00Z FRI. A MOIST AND UNSTABLE

AIRMASS WILL BE IN PLACE. SPC HAS NOTED THE CHANCE OF STRONGER AND

MORE ORGANIZED THUNDERSTORMS IN THEIR 3-DAY OUTLOOK. THERE IS THE

POTENTIAL OF SEVERE WEATHER.

FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...

THE COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT AND WILL STALL NEAR

THE REGION AND EVENTUALLY MOVE NORTHWARD AGAIN AS A WARM FRONT

ON FRIDAY. THE PLACEMENT OF THIS FRONT IS STILL IN QUESTION AND

WILL DETERMINE THE CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS ON FRIDAY. THERE MAY

BE A BETTER CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS ON SATURDAY.

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Boston harbor is 70. I've seen it in the low 70s in 2010. South of BID is 74. Usually maybe 71-72. I expect coral reefs to form anytime now.

lol, I was just asking a question, I have no idea whats normal up that way, Ihave to imagine the waters of li and li sound are well above normal as well as off the jersey shore?

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Here is the KFS point and click. Amazing.

  • Wednesday A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 1pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. Heat index values as high as 101. East wind 8 to 10 mph.
  • Wednesday Night A 10 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 80. East wind 5 to 8 mph.
  • Thursday A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. East wind 7 to 11 mph.
  • Thursday Night A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 80. East wind 5 to 13 mph.
  • Friday A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. Southeast wind 8 to 14 mph, with gusts as high as 18 mph.
  • Friday Night A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 79. Southeast wind 7 to 11 mph.
  • Saturday A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 92.
  • Saturday Night A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 78.
  • Sunday A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91.

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lol, I was just asking a question, I have no idea whats normal up that way, Ihave to imagine the waters of li and li sound are well above normal as well as off the jersey shore?

It's definitely above normal. It has been since last year. This winter was so warm. But lets not think for a second that somehow it fuels hurricanes coming up the coast. While it may have a slight impact, the biggest factors for us are....1) initial intensity near HSE. 2) Any strong shear that impacts the storm as it moves near HSE.

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Here is the KFS point and click. Amazing.

  • Wednesday A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 1pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. Heat index values as high as 101. East wind 8 to 10 mph.
  • Wednesday Night A 10 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 80. East wind 5 to 8 mph.
  • Thursday A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. East wind 7 to 11 mph.
  • Thursday Night A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 80. East wind 5 to 13 mph.
  • Friday A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. Southeast wind 8 to 14 mph, with gusts as high as 18 mph.
  • Friday Night A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 79. Southeast wind 7 to 11 mph.
  • Saturday A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 92.
  • Saturday Night A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 78.
  • Sunday A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 91.

Will it or will not be humid Wednesday-Sunday? That is what you have your panties bunched oiver. Most of us are thinking it's humid and are you saying it will be refreshing?

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It's definitely above normal. It has been since last year. This winter was so warm. But lets not think for a second that somehow it fuels hurricanes coming up the coast. While it may have a slight impact, the biggest factors for us are....1) initial intensity near HSE. 2) Any strong shear that impacts the storm as it moves near HSE.

it has to phase perfectly with a trough

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It's definitely above normal. It has been since last year. This winter was so warm. But lets not think for a second that somehow it fuels hurricanes coming up the coast. While it may have a slight impact, the biggest factors for us are....1) initial intensity near HSE. 2) Any strong shear that impacts the storm as it moves near HSE.

Thats not why I was asking, sst's are not that big of a factor up this way, they are usually moving so quickly anyways. Its all about the trough axis........ssts are always way over used as a reason why cyclones develop and intensity, use last year as a good example. ITs about the upper levels most of the time, and as you said shear.

I was just curous as to what historical temps were, I will dig around.

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Thats not why I was asking, sst's are not that big of a factor up this way, they are usually moving so quickly anyways. Its all about the trough axis........ssts are always way over used as a reason why cyclones develop and intensity, use last year as a good example. ITs about the upper levels most of the time, and as you said shear.

I was just curous as to what historical temps were, I will dig around.

That info is not the easiest to find. I wasn't directing that at you, but I think Kevin was implying that it could aid in surviving hurricanes. Like you and Forky said..it's all about the upper levels.

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