CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Seriously, David Lee Roth works at the HPC now? The touring must have been too much for him... Just a jiggolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well it's not a technical term. I'm not sure what's wrong with using the real term MCV. Interesting article, Ginx, this was a similar setup. Thanks for sharing. There was damage in Litchfield county that day. I remember that storm pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well it's not a technical term. I'm not sure what's wrong with using the real term MCV. Interesting article, Ginx, this was a similar setup. Thanks for sharing. I thought landphoon was a long used term in meteorology. I guess it doesn't matter what we call it. You think we see any storms at all today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I remember the PA case. Look how big that is. That covers a whole region..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I remember the PA case. Look how big that is. That covers a whole region..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yesterday's MCV would have fit in its eye. Same factors in development apply, but size perhaps matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I remember the PA case. Look how big that is. That covers a whole region..lol. Yeah this was smaller for sure. I'm going to do some sfc hand analyses tonight... see what we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The reports from NJ of a sudden rush of East winds as that feature was forming were the first clues. Now casting was great here, nice job by all for this tiny feature which caused a lot of havoc. CT has been the center of a lot of really neat stuff the last two years. The KFS magnet works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yesterday's MCV would have fit in its eye. Same factors in development apply, but size perhaps matters. What is similar about the cases is the widespread macrobursts east of the center and spinups that occurred in embedded mesoscyclones. So like the PA case this one has some similarities on a smaller scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 What is similar about the cases is the widespread macrobursts east of the center and spinups that occurred in embedded mesoscyclones. So like the PA case this one has some similarities on a smaller scale. Also something to think about, was that we did have the surface low pressure develop as those storms went to town over the Delmarva. So, I think this actually was probably part of that...only latent heat went to town and we started to get this thing developing. You get low pressure developing over water that is 75-80 and these things can occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 What is similar about the cases is the widespread macrobursts east of the center and spinups that occurred in embedded mesoscyclones. So like the PA case this one has some similarities on a smaller scale. Yes and the same principles that apply to land-falling Trop systems in regards to spin-ups apply. BID, Westerly, Hopkington, Taunton all had some very isolated damage which could or could not have been spin-ups, even if straight line there were tiny GWaves embedded. Its awesome having all these personal weather stations around. Data mining is a gold mine for these localized events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Also something to think about, was that we did have the surface low pressure develop as those storms went to town over the Delmarva. So, I think this actually was probably part of that...only latent heat went to town and we started to get this thing developing. You get low pressure developing over water that is 75-80 and these things can occur. I mean if you think about it...it probably had some characteristics the tropical systems have. Remember the little low that went near ACK like two weeks ago? That was similar in some ways. Convection is convection and in theory...they all do share similar things, but just thinking out loud here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yes and the same principles that apply to land-falling Trop systems in regards to spin-ups apply. BID, Westerly, Hopkington, Taunton all had some very isolated damage which could or could not have been spin-ups, even if straight line there were tiny GWaves embedded. Its awesome having all these personal weather stations around. Data mining is a gold mine for these localized events. I should try to see if I can find examples. Maybe nothing like yesterday...but I can think of some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I mean if you think about it...it probably had some characteristics the tropical systems have. Remember the little low that went near ACK like two weeks ago? That was similar in some ways. Convection is convection and in theory...they all do share similar things, but just thinking out loud here. I was thinking about that as well. Been a NB summer for many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The only thing this had that the PA didn't was that heavy rain shield to the NE of the center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Get your lawns mowed now in the hazy,humid sun att Noyes @ MattNoyesNECN By early afternoon, the picture should change as downpours/thunder blossom Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 12mMatt Noyes @MattNoyesNECN Aside from Cape Cod, not much going on in New England right now - a few hours to get things done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Storms already firing in ENY west of CT border Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 ...NORTHEAST... MORNING VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS FEWER CLOUDS OVER THE NORTHEAST STATES TODAY COMPARED TO YESTERDAY. THIS WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF AT LEAST POCKETS OF STRONGER DAYTIME HEATING AND DESTABILIZATION. MODEL SOUNDINGS FOR LATER TODAY SUGGEST EARLY AFTERNOON MLCAPE VALUES OVER 1000 J/KG FROM CENTRAL/EASTERN NY INTO WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS WILL LIKELY FORM ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AS A MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER SOUTHEAST OH APPROACHES THE REGION. MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES ARE MARGINAL FOR ROBUST UPDRAFTS. HOWEVER...SUFFICIENT DEEP LAYER EFFECTIVE SHEAR AND SOME DRY AIR ALOFT MAY POSE A RISK OF A LOCALLY GUSTY OR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS IN THE STRONGEST STORMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Get your lawns mowed now in the hazy,humid sun 45] att Noyes @ MattNoyesNECN By early afternoon, the picture should change as downpours/thunder blossom Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 45] 12mMatt Noyes @ MattNoyesNECN Aside from Cape Cod, not much going on in New England right now - a few hours to get things done! Looks like what we've been saying. Western areas during aftn...maybe sct downpours with south winds pushing north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 A lot of these little summer time tropical lows can have these features. Yesterday just went a step above..probably because of extra instability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 OKX 12z sounding quite unstable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 OKX 12z sounding quite unstable Yup. Sultan will be out and about today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 You thinking winds as the major threat today Ryan? Seems like it with decent shear modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 OKX 12z sounding quite unstable Chatham too. Wonder if it's one of those days where like 10-15 miles inland...stuff starts to form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Looks like what we've been saying. Western areas during aftn...maybe sct downpours with south winds pushing north. seems like noyes was saying pretty much anywhere thou believe me i don't want the rain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yup. Sultan will be out and about today Could be out sooner than I want, free beer all afternoon and night. Pacing through a marathon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Despite that, models don't seem terribly bullish except closer to the front closer to where stuff is now. That probably crawls east this aftn I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 seems like noyes was saying pretty much anywhere thou believe me i don't want the rain.... Well not just western areas...might be those cells that develop along seabreeze front or simply from heating like 10-15 miles inland from the beaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 scott or ryan or anyone , do ML lapse rates get better tommorrow in SNE as the last short wave makes it thru or still crap. box earlier said E SNE may be best spot for precip but was wondering if ML lapse rates improve tommorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 May have been a tornado touchdown in Guilford yesterday. There's an area not far from my parents that had some pretty substantial and localized wind damage with siding ripped off houses and a path of trees sheared off. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised (though NWS will never know) if the Guilford damage was tornadic and Glastonbury wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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