Typhoon Tip Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I think the underside of that MCV might have benefited from a trop fold of sorts. The whole think acted like a RFD - it was a really more like a meso-beta scale supercell that came through. Lots of cross-over/overlapping type kinematics seemed observable. I hope some team(s) with wherewithal can do a re-analysis on this event today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayjawintastawm Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Heh, we can't buy a thunderstorm up here along Rt 2. Ever since that renegade unseasonable supercell came rolling down the Mohawk Trail in late March with overlapping thunderclaps and 1 inch hail, I really don't recall hearing thunder here at my house since. Down in Westborough at the office we've had several decent thunderstorm days this summer but it seems like the atmosphere has some physical property to decay convection anywhere close to norther Worcester and northern Middlesex, but only when I am here, interestingly. I was in Michigan last week and saw back-building severe convection on radar up this way, so missed it. Then today, nice wall of death coming north and poof... I don't think we got more than .75" of rain and it was all gentle. Funny, when I lived in Shrewsbury I encountered the same thing, then I move and the winter of '10-11 is epic in SNE, then tornadoes the following summer, etc... and I am now in metro Denver and experiencing the driest, least stormy (except for one good night with epic hail a couple months ago) year in like forever. "A watched atmosphere never boils"...WTF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Wow...posted by Brad Field on his facebook page from Channel 30 on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Look at the feeder bands still on this thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTWeatherFreak Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 From the NY Metro forum, this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landphoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I still can't get over the feeder band on this even now. I mean if you didn't know any better you'd think a TS just made landfall and moved right up thru Central Ct and Mass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I still can't get over the feeder band on this even now. I mean if you didn't no any better you'd think a TS just made landfall and moved right up thru Central Ct and Mass It even sounds like a decaying TS as it goes over my house. Neat pressure drop here in the remnants of the eye...lol Leftover winds mixing down...rain almost done. Nice event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 John, aside from any TOR aspect which I'm gonna let gonfor now unless confirmation...I think winds could have been from a couple of different features. That MCV did intensify the wind field aloft through a variety I different reasons....one of them I think is diabatic heating which I find fascinating. The other could be the result of this meso low that formed and a combo of a fall/rise couplet and strong winds aloft may have given some strong straight line winds. There was some strong winds in the underbelly if this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 This makes for a fascinating study. i wonder if CT has ever had a landphoon before. Do we have any documented history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 This makes for a fascinating study. i wonder if CT has ever had a landphoon before. Do we have any documented history? I was wondering exactly the same thing... this was super cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I remember one in PA a few yrs ago and I've seen them in the midwest occasionally, but never in SNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I remember one in PA a few yrs ago and I've seen them in the midwest occasionally, but never in SNE Yeah, the wiki on them shows the one in PA and NC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Anyone have a loop of this crossing LI sound and into S CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 When Phil first mentioned the feature this morning it was incredible to watch evolve. The maturation process was unreal. Hope someone has a visible Sat loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 It was an MCV guys...not a landphoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 BOX and Bob gonna rock Noted the report of tree down in Taunton. Could have been caused by lightning. Was offline with computer down for about 1/2 hour due to a few VERY VERY close lightning strikes here at the abode. Torrential rain lasted about 25-30 minutes, then ended. Unfortunately, no rain gauge here (in a condo), but saw report of about 1.6" or so at KTAN (I'm about 2 miles W as the crow flies), 1.27" between about 5-6 PM. Rather impressive storm, though did not note any gusty winds here. Wiz, did you hear where that tree was down here in Taunton? If you can find out, that would be great. I'm sure they are still swamped at KBOX right now and really don't want to bother them. Thanks! --Turtle Missed all the fun while driving to Salem, CT. Awful drive on I-295 & Rt 6. Torrential rains and lots of road flooding. I-395 was where it cleared up around Ginxs area. Few spotty showers from there on out. Was listening to WBZ on the way down when the TOR warning went up and saw the radar image while n Salem. That looked schweet. As Eleanor said, looks like close to 1.7" fell here, with gusts to 40mph. Not bad. It's steamy out there right now. I actually love nights like this after a t-storm rolls through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 It was an MCV guys...not a landphoon. It's unusual for one of these things to produce svr around here but not unheard of. Cool setup today an interesting to watch unfold but MCVs aren't as rare around here as some are making them out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 It was an MCV guys...not a landphoon. A MCV is a landphoon, it's the radar sig that really defines it. Look at the temp/ baro traces where it passed overhead in CT on Wunderground. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landphoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 It's unusual for one of these things to produce svr around here but not unheard of. Cool setup today an interesting to watch unfold but MCVs aren't as rare around here as some are making them out to be. No in fact they happen pretty frequently but show me one that had a radar sig like that. Rare bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 A MCV is a landphoon, it's the radar sig that really defines it. Look at the temp/ baro traces where it passed overhead in CT on Wunderground. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landphoon I think we are talking differences in spatial size, so I'll disagree on that. There is a such thing as a weak meso low too along with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well...actually to be fair Steve, I guess it may be close...I don't know how or if the terminology is official..or what the specifications are. Landphoon just sounds like a weenie phrase so I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well...actually to be fair Steve, I guess it may be close...I don't know how or if the terminology is official..or what the specifications are. Landphoon just sounds like a weenie phrase so I'm not sure. When I see the word Landphoon, I think Buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I think we are talking differences in spatial size, so I'll disagree on that. There is a such thing as a weak meso low too along with that. Cool, whatever you call it, it was not boring. Pressure couplets and wind shifts, absolutely my favorites are these small scale intense quick hitting events. Windex and MCVs much more exciting than any Sultan event could be. Drought cancel for all too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Whatever it was, it was pretty awesome. Didn't get to experience any winds though. Sitting at 4.80" for the month. Actually a good bit ahead of last August 10 days into the month (3.23"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 When I see the word Landphoon, I think Buffoon. It's a phenomenon that sounds like it got attached with a weenie term. Through latent heat process...it develops a warm core and can be a meso low. This happens a lot, and happens more frequently when we have a warmer body of water nearby. You can see these even in the winter over the gulf stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 When I see the word Landphoon, I think Buffoon. I think of the Griswolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The term actually refers to tropical storms which intensify overland and was termed by a University Of Guam researcher, so technically no ,not applicable here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Geezus look at the baro traces , both from Glastonbury. That's a trop storm trace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yeah Steve....those are all symptoms of those things. Pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yeah Steve....those are all symptoms of those things. Pretty cool. This has GWave written all over it 16:20 72.3 °F - 71.0 °F 29.71in NE 3.0mph 5.0mph 96% 0.72in / 0.91in total 16:36 71.5 °F - 71.0 °F 29.58in NNW 1.0mph 11.0mph 97% 0.81in / 1.05in total 16:50 71.4 °F - 71.0 °F 29.73in SW 14.0mph 27.0mph 97% 0.99in / 1.26in total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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