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August 2012 Tropical Atlantic Observations And Discussions


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Hopefully we can get some action going

The CFS August thread held out some hope. Pattern looked somewhat favorable.

Looking where deep 26º waters are, and not even August yet, half a day, maybe less, for a storm to weaken. Imagine a Cat 4 coming 20 or 25 mph

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Islip buoy, obviously won't support a TC, but one would hope its warm enough to prevent a cool stable marine layer which might keep strong gusts from mixing down. Mid 70s 1 meter temp.

And 6Z GFS ensemble spaghetti says not to give up hope on 99L...

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^^ FWIW- HM, a trained professional, and one of the better red tags, thinks the pattern is NOT favorable for the East Coast in the mear to medium term,

If I had to trust HM or me on weather, I'd trust HM. But I'll remain silver lining sunny side of the street optimistic.

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^^ FWIW- HM, a trained professional, and one of the better red tags, thinks the pattern is NOT favorable for the East Coast in the mear to medium term,

If I had to trust HM or me on weather, I'd trust HM. But I'll remain silver lining sunny side of the street optimistic.

Thanks for the post, great insight & graphics

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ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL

TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

800 PM EDT MON JUL 30 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED

ABOUT 1000 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS CONTINUES

TO PRODUCE DISORGANIZED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY.

ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR SOME GRADUAL

DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW

CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE

NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE

NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER PASCH

NNNN

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ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL

TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

200 AM EDT TUE JUL 31 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED

ABOUT 1100 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS CONTINUES

TO PRODUCE DISORGANIZED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY.

ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR SOME GRADUAL

DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW

CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE

NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE

NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER PASCH

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ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL

TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

800 AM EDT TUE JUL 31 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED

ABOUT 1150 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS CONTINUES

TO PRODUCE DISORGANIZED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY.

ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR SOME GRADUAL

DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LOW OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A

LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE

NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE

NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN

NNNN

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When Irene was approaching this area, this area was a ghost town. All the stores were boarded up. Never saw that in my life. I went to Manhattan Beach right after Irene hit. Massive flooding.

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I had no power for 2 days? From 1am Sunday morning a tree fell took down the transformer, woke up next morning there were 3 trees down near my house

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I had no power for 2 days? From 1am Sunday morning a tree fell took down the transformer, woke up next morning there were 3 trees down near my house

CVS closed at 4 . Alot of people thought a big hurricane was coming since the media was talking about winds over 75 mph.

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The one with a 965 low is nice to

Every year the models smoke a few joints and spit out doom tracks for the northeast. The odds of this happening are extremely low and I wouldn't buy a scenario like the one that is shown even if most of the models had it. Tropical cyclone tracks can change from run to run, and posts like the GGEM ensemble porn belong in the banter thread. In order to get a cyclone up here with that type of strength you would need for it be aborbed into a negatively tilted trough and you would need blocking. Otherwise you have the westerlies and the problem with cold SST. The TC simply can not make it up this far north fast enough before either the westerlies push them offshore or they weaken for a variety of other reasons. You need a fast moving TC which has been absorbed or partially absorbed into a negatively tilted through. A trough that deep and that strong is not exactly easy to come by during the Summer.

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