nycsnow Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 This lightning is still going strong it's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 this event was a reall snoozer here - heavy rain some lightning a few pings of hail and winds were only gusting to 25 or 30 - anybody get anything more exciting ? Gusts in the 40's here. Small branches down. But technically not severe just a regular strong storm. Highlight was the shelf cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 Some decent lightning and thunder now. Best storms for NYC are usually the ones that form closer to the city and not the long traveling ones from way west. We can also do very well with southward-turning MCS events...where the storms track over Northern PA and New York State and then turn south along a mid level gradient. We had a bunch of those in the early 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The storms that move due south or nearly due south definitely seem a lot more intense than these dying squall lines, is it because of the wind direction, less interaction with the marine layer? If they are moving north to south they have less time to interact with the stable air before reaching the coast, but additionally they more directly oppose the sea breeze boundary which if set up just right can actually briefly enhance storms as they cross it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 We can also do very well with southward-turning MCS events...where the storms track over Northern PA and New York State and then turn south along a mid level gradient. We had a bunch of those in the early 2000's. Yeah. But in my area, it's usually the discrete and strong cells that produce severe weather. Usually not a larger complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Looking at the animation, appears to be some re-intensification as precip approaches CT and Westchester coasts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Yeah. But in my area, it's usually the discrete and strong cells that produce severe weather. Usually not a larger complex. and for whatever reason there was really none of those today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 looks like everybodys callin bust. good thing they took their finger off the trigger with the 'high risk'. I could only imagine the weenie backlash. that secondary low development (on the NAM) prolly screwed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 This next batch will produce decent rains at least and is currently producing decent lightning and loud rumbles of thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 looks like everybodys callin bust. good thing they took their finger off the trigger with the 'high risk'. I could only imagine the weenie backlash. that secondary low development (on the NAM) prolly screwed us. It wasn't a bust, ask people in northern PA and south central NY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 mostly referring to NJ / NYC metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 This sheet lightning is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Yeah loud crackling thunder nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Watch us get hit hard tomorriw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Watch us get hit hard tomorriw Nice cold pool aloft heading in could be some nice pop up hail core storms in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 in mount olive, nj: Awesome shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Was watching TV 10/55 news, and as they went to break, their camera picked up a terrific cg strike just west of Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The Tornado Watch was a huge bust. I still have NO idea why the SPC went so far NORTH with it. The ONLY guidance that was that far north into NY was the SPC SREF tornado probability graphic, but that was clearly flawed. It had the peak around 2 a.m. tomorrow in Connecticut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Newark gusted to 40mph. LGA and JFK even higher. Not terrible if you think about it. Not severe levels but still pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Newark gusted to 40mph. LGA and JFK even higher. Not terrible if you think about it. Not severe levels but still pretty good. Is there even one other report of wind even close to what LGA reported around them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Is there even one other report of wind even close to what LGA reported around them? JFK and Newark were close to LGA. I estimated 30-35mph at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Newark gusted to 40mph. LGA and JFK even higher. Not terrible if you think about it. Not severe levels but still pretty good. The JFK peak gust was close to some of the peak airport gusts back to our west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Perhaps the storms outran the best instability and ran into a bit of capping? Possible considering how fast the storms were moving and that everything discrete was so close to the line itself as opposed to way out in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 JFK and Newark were close to LGA. I estimated 30-35mph at that time. It looks like Newark and JFK passed under better storms though. Not doubting the report, but I want to point out that it was extremely localized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The 12z 4km NAM did a really nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Was watching TV 10/55 news, and as they went to break, their camera picked up a terrific cg strike just west of Manhattan. I don't know if NWSFO KOKX is watching TV 10/55 News but five minutes after they stated a downed tree near the Locust Valley train station, the NWSFO put out a local storm report stating the same thing and sourcing it to local media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Nice inversion over Manhattan with 89.5 dbz returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Still kinda shocked by what happened today. Radar velocities were easily in the 63-68 knot range and there was some obvious bowing in NNJ. As soon as the line hit the mountains near Ramsey, everything just collapsed. The shelf cloud I saw was impressive, but I saw some obvious lack of precip/vigorous cloud motion beyond it. Radar echoes were an extremely low 36-45 dBZ with very weak velocities thereafter. I ruled out a sudden down-burst, because the heaviest winds never mixed down to the surface and there weren't any OFB's. One day once I retire, I'll find out what the heck causes so many severe storms to just collapse as they approach my area. Like some have said here...I have seen more impressive winds and lightning during winter storms and Nor' Easters. Oh well. There's always next time I guess the only good part about today was seeing the lightning streak CTC overhead while I was grilling. Nice light show for the wife and I during dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 We can also do very well with southward-turning MCS events...where the storms track over Northern PA and New York State and then turn south along a mid level gradient. We had a bunch of those in the early 2000's. We have also done well with some early-morning events, when the CAPE can actually be a little higher near the coast than further west. 7/18/07 comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Rarely, you get a sounding right before the squall line moves through, but here it is for Brookhaven for 00 UTC, July 27th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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