LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Very run of the mill here as said before gusted around 45 limited lightning. Not even close to last weeks south shore lightning special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 It looked like it was about to form one. The water was starting to spin up near the harbor. Hope everything's ok with you Ant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 So andyhb... how was that 65kts? I think you owe someone an apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The whole KOKX marine zones covered by a special marine warning. Can't remember the last time that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 New England thread has to be pissed, tornado watch and not even anything more than heavy rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Somewhat better than I expected, winds came in pretty good and the rain was intense (still raining good here), but I've seen considerably better even in Long Beach. The marine layer I think took a toll, as well as downslope as it came through NJ. So incredibly difficult to get severe weather down here to the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 When is the next threat?? Wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Adjacent Mt. Sinai with just 0.10" in the rain bucket today so far...more comng but not sure if it will re-intensify or just be steady moderate showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 When is the next threat?? Wednesday? More threats? For a repeat of this. Edit. We should start a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I would say it was fun, but compared to what we've seen this summer in Monmouth, other storms blow today's event out of the water. It was pretty disappointing given the impressive parameters, just goes to show convection is extremely difficult to predict. I didn't like the fact that we had to wait until after 6-7pm to get the storms, as usually they start dying by that point. However, I thought the high sfc instability and shear would compensate. Oh well, it was interesting to track at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkrangers Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 http://twitter.com/gkrangers/status/228649409477484544/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I would say it was fun, but compared to what we've seen this summer in Monmouth, other storms blow today's event out of the water. It was pretty disappointing given the impressive parameters, just goes to show convection is extremely difficult to predict. I didn't like the fact that we had to wait until after 6-7pm to get the storms, as usually they start dying by that point. However, I thought the high sfc instability and shear would compensate. Oh well, it was interesting to track at least. in the end, it was the mid level lapse rates that did us in. I was also wondering if everything has been two hours ealier would it have helped, but a lot of these events are better at night and morning, so not sure that theory holds water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I would really like someone to figure out what needs to be in place for us to get actual severe weather, clearly today wasn't good enough. What did other big time severe weather events have that we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD2011 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I drove to Danbury, CT to get to the center of the bow echo. Worst thunderstorm I have ever seen. I estimate 60-70 mph wind gusts for 5 minutes, then heavy rain. Many trees down. My car was getting rocked. The sky was pitch back. This was truly a severe thunderstorm, which is pretty rare around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Was up in Mount Olive with spiffybeth and Dsnowx. We saw some incredible structure (will go through the pics tonight) as evidenced by spiffy's picture above, but as others mentioned the storm was lackluster. I'd guess we gusted to about 40 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I would really like someone to figure out what needs to be in place for us to get actual severe weather, clearly today wasn't good enough. What did other big time severe weather events have that we need? The conditions are usually right out in the Great Plains....the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma are prime territory for severe t-storms and tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I would really like someone to figure out what needs to be in place for us to get actual severe weather, clearly today wasn't good enough. What did other big time severe weather events have that we need? Better mid-level lapse rates associated with a solid EML, I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Tons of lightning just passed by here. The CTG Lightning was pretty deadly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 So andyhb... how was that 65kts? I think you owe someone an apology Considering he was doing that essentially all day...and that there were indeed 65 kt winds in the velocity scans coming at superstorm, I stand by it. This was always leaning towards a Northern PA/South Central NY deal anyway (and it delivered in that sense). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I would say it was fun, but compared to what we've seen this summer in Monmouth, other storms blow today's event out of the water. It was pretty disappointing given the impressive parameters, just goes to show convection is extremely difficult to predict. I didn't like the fact that we had to wait until after 6-7pm to get the storms, as usually they start dying by that point. However, I thought the high sfc instability and shear would compensate. Oh well, it was interesting to track at least. If it were a true derecho time of day shouldn't matter. Pretty run of the mill squall the kind of which we get several times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 By the coast the marine layer is tough to beat. It was always a tell tale sign to me on LI when the line shows the pattern it did today as it approached the coast. It kind of pushes east into CT and almost splits from the section in NJ. As it finally pushes toward the shore the stable air there kills it quick when it finally crosses the sound. LI and the coast is more likely to see actual severe weather when the storms move due north to south as opposed to west to east. Again look at today's Mesoanalysis and you will see there was plenty of CIN (bad for storms) at the coast. I don't know why SPC extended the MDT as far as they did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 this event was a reall snoozer here - heavy rain some lightning a few pings of hail and winds were only gusting to 25 or 30 - anybody get anything more exciting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The storms that move due south or nearly due south definitely seem a lot more intense than these dying squall lines, is it because of the wind direction, less interaction with the marine layer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Lightning bolts now are actually pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Lightning hit a tree in my backyard in Southern Nassau Co and made the loudest explosion I have ever heard in person. Winds gusted to 45 mph. Overall nothing special and certainly not severe. The shelf cloud was sweet tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The conditions are usually right out in the Great Plains....the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma are prime territory for severe t-storms and tornadoes. Yeah, they have the infamous elevated mixed layer due to the mid level dry punch which prevents convection from developing until the lid boils over so to speak. Over here, we rarely get that particular parameter due to our geography in general. As others have noted, not enough temp change with height was another problem. Usually you want at least 7-7.5C/km for more impressive outbreaks. Certainly no marine layer here, so that wasn't the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Puppet Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Sick in mount olive, nj: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 clarion PA about to get nailed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Some decent lightning and thunder now. Best storms for NYC are usually the ones that form closer to the city and not the long traveling ones from way west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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