LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 http://en.wikipedia....or_Day_Derechos ? Interesting I didn't realize that the Labor Day storm was considered a derecho. My favorite thunderstorm of all time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Sun is starting to peek out here, airmass will begin to rapidly destabilize over the next few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 While those SIM radars are nice, lets not get too caught up in them. We are still waiting for the WF to pass and for some sun. We still have no surface based CAP and lapse rates are poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Here's the 4km WRF from WSI Nice snag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Can i get a MOTHER OF GOD??? That will do some damage. Whats the timing on that Indeed, if that were to verify we would be dealing with some serious winds and the lower half moving through Jersey looks like a big time hail producer if nothing else, but it's just another model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Full, hazy sunshine now. It got noticibly muggier as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Here's the 4km WRF from WSI Here's the view from PSU: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 going to be quiet for the next few hours on the radar and any severe watches for NYC metro will probably not be issued till this afternoon some time and probably cover a major portion of the evening and overnight hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Here's the view from PSU: The RPM is a completely different (and private) model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Getting hot and humid fast out there -- we've got bright sun now..still a few clouds burning off but with the clearing expected to continue, 11:30am is not a bad start time for building instability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The RPM is a completely different (and private) model. Same theme as the NAM though. Crazy rear inflow jet developing with that sucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 FWIW, the 12Z HRRR doesn't seem overly gung ho on a very organized squall line/derecho tonight. It does bring through a cluster of storms from NE PA through NYC this evening which would probably be severe but there is very little updraft helicity being forecast in any isolated storms earlier in the day and maximum 10m wind gusts only get up to isolated 40 kts in NW NJ and weakening there on out. Not sure on the HRRR's track record when it comes to forecasting such intricacies. I wouldn't put TOO much stock in it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Mostly sunny here. Getting humid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 WRT the HRRR. it still had a convective complex in it's earlier forecast hours. Im more interested to see what it does when it assimilates all this clearing going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 WRT the HRRR. it still had a convective complex in it's earlier forecast hours. Im more interested to see what it does when it assimilates all this clearing going on. Very true - the complex has dissipated much more rapidly than the 12Z HRRR shows. These ultra hi-res mesoscale models are always so tempting to overanalyze. Oy vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Here's the 4km WRF from WSI Wow! Just wow, that line would do alot of damage on long island widespread from nassua and suffolk. Its just a model i know but that is one dangerous line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 It's 74F with a dewpoint of 69F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Getting some sun here now. Those NE folks must be pretty sour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Western NE is in the game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 just an amazing change in airmasses in under 24 hours. Crisp and dry yesterday, humid and unstable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Radar clearing is very impressive as well. CAPE should blossom very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Getting some sun here now. Those NE folks must be pretty sour. I've been reading through the New England thread all morning and some of the mets are really starting to think the main focus will be down by us instead of southern New England. Being in the bullseye 24 hours out isn't always the best thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Still stuck in the clouds here, give or take another half hour for mostly sunny conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Besides the high wind potential, the PWAT's and dews forecast suggest maybe an inch of rain in 10-15 minutes for strongest hit areas and then going up from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Besides the high wind potential, the PWAT's and dews forecast suggest maybe an inch of rain in 10-15 minutes for strongest hit areas and then going up from there. dews in the low 70's are whats feeding a lot of the instability on the soundings, and yeah, tons of liquid potential here. If any cells decide to train, epic flash flooding possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Sounding shows how the Tornado threat may just not all come together, but the straight line wind threat and bow segment threat sure is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Impressive that I'm at 83F without any sunshine yet. Once these clouds break in the next 30 minutes we should spike quickly into the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Sounding shows how the Tornado threat may just not all come together, but the straight line wind threat and bow segment threat sure is I can't speak for everyone here, but a tornado is the last thing I want to see in this highly populated region. Damaging winds are probably the best you can get here without too much destruction. Now SNY is different. If I see some hooks ahead of the line later, I'm headed north no matter what the circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Wow, craven/brooks #s and supercell parameterd are really ramping up in western PA and spreading east. We already have over 200 m2/s2 of helicity over the area with 45+ kt. bulk shear and increasing theta-e advection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The directional shear might not be enough for tornadoes, but if we can get localized backing north or northwest of the city, where the surface winds locally turn to the south instead of southwest, that's where you have to watch out. This is where surface based helicity can locally be enhanced. A widespread tornado event is unlikely given the primarily west of south surface winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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