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PhillipS

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There actually might be quite the big Greenland snowstorm coming over the next 4-8 days as the vortex drops right over Greenland. All model guidance is showing it starting about mid-week this coming week and going into next weekend. Snow levels should be pretty low.

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Some -20F daily departures showing up.

 

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The pattern is almost the mirror opposite of recent years there. You sort of mentioned this in the arctic thread, but the placement of the anomalies has been totally reversed. Last year in June/July (and many recent years) saw huge ridging into Greenland and poking into the Arctic basin with lower heights over Scandanavia over to the Barents/KAra region. This June will go down with solid negative anomalies over the CAB and parts of Greenland with big positive anomalies over Scandanavia and Barents....the Greenland low heights will only intensify as we start July, though the central arctic will see a bit of a relaxation but still nothing crazy positive like recent years. The higher heights over Scandanavia/Barents will continue to be the dominant ridging feature.

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The pattern is almost the mirror opposite of recent years there. You sort of mentioned this in the arctic thread, but the placement of the anomalies has been totally reversed. Last year in June/July (and many recent years) saw huge ridging into Greenland and poking into the Arctic basin with lower heights over Scandanavia over to the Barents/KAra region. This June will go down with solid negative anomalies over the CAB and parts of Greenland with big positive anomalies over Scandanavia and Barents....the Greenland low heights will only intensify as we start July, though the central arctic will see a bit of a relaxation but still nothing crazy positive like recent years. The higher heights over Scandanavia/Barents will continue to be the dominant ridging feature.

 

I agree. The opposite May pattern with the strong PV was a nice early hint that things would be different this year.

 

 

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Snow  has already fallen over the Western side.  Not very much but it still fell. 

 

I haven't seen Western Greenland that cool since a couple days in 2011.  But with the upcoming forecast it's going to much more favorable than 2011 for possible covering back up the bare ice during July.

 

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Can someone be kind enough to direct me to this graph in real time?

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You may be able to get that plot from the Byrd Polar Research Center - but I've had luck in finding it at www.meltfactor.org.  Here's the latest the have posted:

 

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That's for higher elevations, of course.  Here's one for lower slopes:

 

 

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The lower elevations are more relevant to the melting being shown on the NSIDC site.

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You may be able to get that plot from the Byrd Polar Research Center - but I've had luck in finding it at www.meltfactor.org.  Here's the latest the have posted:

 

 

 

That's for higher elevations, of course.  Here's one for lower slopes:

 

 

 

The lower elevations are more relevant to the melting being shown on the NSIDC site.

 

 

There was strong melt early on along the Eastern and Northern side of GIS that helped keep 2013 and 2012 close.  But there is no way 2013 is currently keeping up.  2012 did dump about 200GT a month for JJA last year.

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This is why I am 100 percent sure the melt won't be under 500GT and that is with the awesome weather GIS has received so far.  I am glad this has been updated. 

 

The weather this year has been amazingly better than 2005, 2011, 2010, 2007, and obviously 2012.  And yet GIS albedo is third lowest.  It would take perfect I mean perfect weather the rest of the Summer to not have that happen.  Obviously the folks who want to educate themselves on this can follow the link and use whatever tool's needed to see why GIS is facing some serious issues.  If the weather was like some of those other years and obviously 2012 albedo would of dropped even further down past 2012 and if that same 2012 weather repeated barring a massive amount of new snow this process would positive feedback.  Because the dirty ice isn't going away.

 

Hopefully the dirty snow project can give us more answers to of this "dark soot" thing is going to flush out or not.  Artificial albedo reduction on this level was not expected.  GIS given the weather so far.  Should not be where it is on the albedo chart below.

 

 

http://www.meltfactor.org/blog/

 

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Every station reporting precipitation is showing it as rain - not unexpectedly with temperatures of 9C at Mittarfik or 8C at Nord. PII2012-A-1 is holding fast in Kane Basin & we probably won't know if it's still grounded until after the next spring tide on the 7th. Temperatures are 5C at Han Island and there are signs of ice movement further north in Robeson Channel but If the ice island remains and interferes with advection through Nares Strait the effect will be felt in the Lincoln Sea and as far west as the CAA.

 

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Every station reporting precipitation is showing it as rain - not unexpectedly with temperatures of 9C at Mittarfik or 8C at Nord. PII2012-A-1 is holding fast in Kane Basin & we probably won't know if it's still grounded until after the next spring tide on the 7th. Temperatures are 5C at Han Island and there are signs of ice movement further north in Robeson Channel but If the ice island remains and interferes with advection through Nares Strait the effect will be felt in the Lincoln Sea and as far west as the CAA.

 

Terry

Probably all stations are at low elevations though, how far up is the precipitation falling?

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It looks like GIS ended up missing out on the potential snow event.  To the SE. 

 

Good thing they don't have americanwx.com or they would be in epic meltdown mode.  All 2 of the snow lovers on GIS :).

 

2012 is not going to be able to sustain close distance with 2013 soon. Even though more wider scale melting will be picking back up.

 

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However at least for a little why that is progged to change. 

 

But a big -NAO is on the table attm.S

 

12z GFS starting tomorrow in 24 hour increments.

 

Day 1/Day2/Day3

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Day 4/Day 5/Day 6

 

 

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So at least it's only part of the ice sheet.  But this will probably vary quite a bit.

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Cooler air looks to be pressing south by that last image...I think the GIS melt continues to be unimpressive during Summer 2013.

 

At worst it will lose 500GT.  Which would essentially tie it with 2007 as the 4th highest GIS land ice melt on on record back to 1958.

 

It will probably end up closer to 550GT because there will be at least two week long warm spells or so to enhance the melt. 

 

I wouldn't call that unimpressive.

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GIS is about to get a 2nd spike of larger melting. 

 

This is starting today going out every 24 hours on the GFS.  This going to be  warmer period with more melting and chances for higher elevation rain up to 2300M.  with possibly snow above that.

 

But this isn't the ideal set up many of the recent year's had.  If GIS albedo wasn't lowered overtime.  2013 would end up with half of the ice mass loss it will have. 

 

 

DAY: 1/DAY: 2

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DAY 3/ DAY 4:

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DAY:5/DAY:6

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GIS ice sheet get's rare early July break from large ice loss.

 

 

This was a couple days after SW/W Greenland had received a light snow fall event.  Which coincided with a longer run of cool to cold July temps.  Southern GIS narrowly missed a chance at another major snow event that ended up missing to the SE.

 

A new website that is going to replace the DMI model used here so often can be accessed here:

 

 

http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland-ice-shelf/nbsp/total-mass-change/

 

 

 

 

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We can see the amount of ice mass loss per day has slightly dropped due to the abnormally cool conditions and albedo lowering snow fall.

 

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If you want a quick but good further education on this.  Read this:

 

http://polarportal.dk/fileadmin/Images/polarportal/pdf_docs/Colgan_and_Box_in_prep_v.1.3.pdf

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