Ginx snewx Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yup and all of those reports are not serious. We really should reserve warnings for life threatening weather. 4-8" of water on a road (in places that typically flood, mind you) is not dangerous. Over warning continues. Well this is the warning, seems appropriate not excessive AVOID FLOODED ROADS. THE WATER MAY BE TOO DEEP TO ALLOW VEHICLES TO CROSS SAFELY... OR THE ROADWAY MAY BE UNDERMINED. TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Well this is the warning, seems appropriate not excessive AVOID FLOODED ROADS. THE WATER MAY BE TOO DEEP TO ALLOW VEHICLES TO CROSS SAFELY... OR THE ROADWAY MAY BE UNDERMINED. TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN! Why not an urban/small stream advisory? Seems to me this is what that advisory is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Flood advisories hoisted for eastern areas. FLOOD ADVISORY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA 447 PM EDT SAT JUL 28 2012 CTC015-MAC005-009-017-021-023-025-027-RIC001-003-005-007-009-282330- /O.NEW.KBOX.FA.Y.0025.120728T2047Z-120728T2330Z/ /00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/ WINDHAM CT-NEWPORT RI-BRISTOL RI-MIDDLESEX MA-WORCESTER MA-NORFOLK MA-PROVIDENCE RI-WASHINGTON RI-ESSEX MA-PLYMOUTH MA-KENT RI-BRISTOL MA-SUFFOLK MA- 447 PM EDT SAT JUL 28 2012 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAUNTON HAS ISSUED A * FLOOD ADVISORY FOR... ALL OF RHODE ISLAND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BLOCK ISLAND. THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF PROVIDENCE...WOONSOCKET...SMITHFIELD... CRANSTON...WARWICK...AND NEWPORT. MUCH OF EASTERN MASSACHUSETTS. THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF BOSTON...LOWELL...FRAMINGHAM... NORWOOD...FOXBOROUGH...AND ATTLEBOROUGH. * UNTIL 730 PM EDT * AT 437 PM EDT MODERATE TO OCCASIONALLY HEAVY RAIN AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS WAS OCCURRING OVER CENTRAL MASSACHUSETTS AND NORTHEAST CONNECTICUT. 1 TO 2 INCHES OF RAIN IN AN HOUR CAN BE EXPECTED AS THESE STORMS MOVE TO THE EAST AND IMPACT RHODE ISLAND AND EASTERN MASSACHUSETTS. THIS COULD CAUSE FLOODING OF ROADWAYS AND MAY CAUSE SMALL STREAMS TO APPROACH BANKFULL. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS SAFELY. MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND. && LAT...LON 4188 7179 4189 7168 4233 7156 4270 7162 4269 7090 4244 7095 4241 7098 4235 7097 4233 7101 4233 7098 4145 7117 4146 7120 4154 7122 4147 7124 4145 7131 4145 7141 4149 7141 4135 7148 4137 7157 4131 7182 $$ FIELD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Why not an urban/small stream advisory? Seems to me this is what that advisory is for. I'd rather see the flash flood warning for truly life threatening flooding with rivers out of their banks and rising... roads washed away... serious flooding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I'd rather see the flash flood warning for truly life threatening flooding with rivers out of their banks and rising... roads washed away... serious flooding. 12" of water under a railroad bridge doesn't qualify. In fact all the towns listed in the LSRs and where we've seen tweets from we've spoken to police and fire and they've been very "meh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I'd rather see the flash flood warning for truly life threatening flooding with rivers out of their banks and rising... roads washed away... serious flooding. True, understand what you mean now. yea flood advisory is much more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 True, understand what you mean now. yea flood advisory is much more appropriate. Yeah I'm all for telling people that there may be urban flooding and to avoid places where water covers the road but we really need to do a better job of getting warnings out for the truly dangerous/life threatening events by not getting stuck with the boy who cried wolf syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yeah I'm all for telling people that there may be urban flooding and to avoid places where water covers the road but we really need to do a better job of getting warnings out for the truly dangerous/life threatening events by not getting stuck with the boy who cried wolf syndrome. KFS syndrome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 KFS syndrome? LOL I like that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Tomorrow could be a solid 4-7F temp bust type day. Forecast is upper 70s, but onshow flow and threat of clouds/shower could keep us quite a bit lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Looks like a pretty large error in the BOS CLI for today...they list BOS high as 79F at 11:47am, but the temp at 11am was 68F, and then it was 68F again at 12pm. It rose to 73F at 2pm which was the 6 hourly high reported at 18z...then the next 6 hourly high at 00z was also 73F. So it appears an input of 6F too high for the BOS high today. Something is wrong there, but BOS appeared to be a legit 77 at the morning 5z so the error probably is only 1 or 2F. The 79 may even be correct, but it didn't happen just before noon like you mentioned. My colleague at the office took care of this error this morning. The CLI was reissued at 1127 AM with 77 as the high at 1254 AM. Thanks for catching this, Will. --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 My colleague at the office took care of this error this morning. The CLI was reissued at 1127 AM with 77 as the high at 1254 AM. Thanks for catching this, Will. --Turtle No problem. I actually missed the midnight high originally, but the 11:47am time stamp of the high is what caught my eye initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 BOS monthly departure has been in a tailspin...Scott might actually win the bet between with him and LL about a +2.0 departure. They will be down around +2.5 after today and down to around +2.2-2.3 after tomorrow. If the NWS point and click for BOS is correct, they will end the month around +1.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 BOS monthly departure has been in a tailspin...Scott might actually win the bet between with him and LL about a +2.0 departure. They will be down around +2.5 after today and down to around +2.2-2.3 after tomorrow. If the NWS point and click for BOS is correct, they will end the month around +1.8 The pattern seems to be gradually evolving to one with more blocking, with troughiness pushing up into a West Atlantic ridge and leading to a humid, moist regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Nice rains today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Tomorrow could be a solid 4-7F temp bust type day. Forecast is upper 70s, but onshow flow and threat of clouds/shower could keep us quite a bit lower. Euro op/ens are fairly wet and raw tomorrow with NE flow. MOS is LM70s for most of the interior, but U60s to near 70F wouldn't shock me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 This weather sucks azz, thankfully the sun returns tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 This weather sucks azz, thankfully the sun returns tomorrow. What kind of beer does Scoots like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Another hot humid day with storms on the Jersey shore. Had another one last night around 10:00. Very Florida like down here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Another hot humid day with storms on the Jersey shore. Had another one last night around 10:00. Very Florida like down here Is the van okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Is the van okay? Lol yeah it flooded up to front bumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Might not hit 70 here...egads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I'd rather see the flash flood warning for truly life threatening flooding with rivers out of their banks and rising... roads washed away... serious flooding. Irene flash flooding with cars being flipped by muddy torrents, bridges completely gone, houses swept down what are normally ankle deep streams....that sort of stuff. I completely agree with Ryan. Too many FF Warnings and not enough Urban Flood Advisories to cover the pavement induced ponding of water on roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 This weather sucks azz, thankfully the sun returns tomorrow. Ridge in the west, trough in the east my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Ridge in the west, trough in the east my friend. But I was told that all of these troughs the ec ens have had advertised never verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 But I was told that all of these troughs the ec ens have had advertised never verify. The torch twins spin would be to say the high dews are causing the rain. It's possible I may lose by 0.1F lol. I'll have to look back but I think Joe said +2.0 or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 The torch twins spin would be to say the high dews are causing the rain. It's possible I may lose by 0.1F lol. I'll have to look back but I think Joe said +2.0 or better. Im pulling for u in every way .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 The torch twins spin would be to say the high dews are causing the rain. It's possible I may lose by 0.1F lol. I'll have to look back but I think Joe said +2.0 or better. . We are all counting on you to pull this off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 I am actually pulling for Joe for this one... I want the below normals to be in Dec,Jan, Feb, March, April... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Shorter term, may I recommend the new CFS thread in the NYC subforum. And maybe my comments yesterday in the NYC banter thread. I know tropical chances in any given year for NYC/LI/SNE are rather low, but not even August, the 26º SST isotherm almost to ACY, water temps mid 70sF South of Long Island, and now maybe the trough a bit further West, well, I am hoping to be lurking a lot in the NYC and SNE subforums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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