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Was wondering about PDS myself, given the probs in the Outlook. Won't have to wait long to find out.

kpantz!11!! You need to post more... I miss your posts :)

To keep on topic, I dont think they really issue PDS STW's that much anymore. We didnt have a PDS STW down in DC area on 6/29 when the serial derecho was ongoing

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kpantz!11!! You need to post more... I miss your posts :)

To keep on topic, I dont think they really issue PDS STW's that much anymore. We didnt have a PDS STW down in DC area on 6/29 when the serial derecho was ongoing

Yeah, I don't have much time for anything these days! I still lurk from time to time, though.

You could make the counter-argument that given the relative surprise in the general public associated with recent storms, SPC could err on the side of caution and make sure people take notice.

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kpantz!11!! You need to post more... I miss your posts :)

To keep on topic, I dont think they really issue PDS STW's that much anymore. We didnt have a PDS STW down in DC area on 6/29 when the serial derecho was ongoing

There should've been.

The current meso discussion may lead to one, although the one further east is likely to be a tornado watch with high wind probs.

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Well cape is increasing as the CIN is eroding. Liking the look of that line out west. Def can cross off 6-6-2010 style bust.

Still have to see how far south the actual line reaches. But the new HRRR popping discrete cells in chesco would be nice.

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Probability of 2 or more tornadoes

Mod (40%)

Probability of 1 or more strong (F2-F5) tornadoes

Low (20%)

Wind

Probability of 10 or more severe wind events

High (80%)

Probability of 1 or more wind events > 65 knots

Mod (50%)

Hail

Probability of 10 or more severe hail events

Mod (40%)

Probability of 1 or more hailstones > 2 inches

Mod (30%)

Combined Severe Hail/Wind

Probability of 6 or more combined severe hail/wind events

High (90%)

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Mesoscale Discussion 1606 < Previous MD mcd1606.gif

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1606

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

0208 PM CDT THU JUL 26 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS VA...ERN WV...DC...MD...DE.

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE

VALID 261908Z - 262115Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...40 PERCENT

SUMMARY...TSTM POTENTIAL IS INCREASING OVER THIS AREA...AS AIR MASS

CONTINUES TO DESTABILIZE SE OF WW 524. BEING NEAR SRN PERIPHERY OF

FAVORABLE MIDLEVEL WINDS AND DEEP SHEAR...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR

SUFFICIENT TSTM ORGANIZATION TO WARRANT WW...AND CONVECTIVE TRENDS

WILL BE MONITORED ACCORDINGLY. DAMAGING GUSTS ARE PRIMARY

CONCERN...AND MRGL SVR HAIL IS POSSIBLE.

DISCUSSION...18Z SFC MESOANALYSIS SHOWED QUASISTATIONARY LEE TROUGH

WITH WEAK CONFLUENCE NEAR FDK-LYH-MTV LINE. FARTHER

E...BETTER-DEFINED CONFLUENCE BAND WAS EVIDENT BETWEEN RDU-RIC-DCA

THEN NEWD OVER HARFORD COUNTY MD. AIR MASS BETWEEN THESE BOUNDARIES

HAS HEATED QUITE STRONGLY...WITH SFC TEMPS MID-UPPER 90S AND DEW

POINTS UPPER 60S TO 70S F CONTRIBUTING TO MLCAPE 3000-4500 J/KG.

THIS IS DERIVED FROM MODIFIED 12Z AND 18Z RAOBS AND FCST

SOUNDINGS...DISCOUNTING SITES WITH ANOMALOUSLY HIGH/80S F SFC DEW

POINTS. 18Z IAD RAOB INDICATED WEAK CINH STILL REMAINING...AS WELL

AS STABLE LAYER BETWEEN 500-650 MB...EACH OF WHICH MAY BE MITIGATING

DEEP CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT SO FAR. HOWEVER...CONTINUED

HEATING/DESTABILIZATION SHOULD SUPPORT TSTM INITIATION/GROWTH DURING

NEXT FEW HOURS INVOF EITHER BOUNDARY. VIS IMAGERY ACCORDINGLY

DEPICTS PATCHES OF DEEPENING CU/TCU BETWEEN I-95 CORRIDOR AND BLUE

RIDGE...ESPECIALLY NEAR RIC. VWP AND OBSERVED/FCST SOUNDINGS

SUGGEST 25-35 KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR MAGNITUDES IN SUPPORT OF ORGANIZED

MULTICELLULAR POTENTIAL.

..EDWARDS/HART.. 07/26/2012

ATTN...WFO...PHI...AKQ...LWX...RNK...

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1608

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

0237 PM CDT THU JUL 26 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS OH...NERN KY...WV...PA...SERN NY...SRN NEW

ENGLAND...NJ.

CONCERNING...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 524...

VALID 261937Z - 262130Z

THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 524

CONTINUES.

SUMMARY...CONTINUE WW ALONG/AHEAD OF STG-SVR TSTMS NOW OVER NRN/WRN

PORTIONS. NEW WW WILL BE ISSUED SOON...DOWNSHEAR FOR ERN PA EWD

TOWARD SWRN NEW ENGLAND AND LONG ISLAND INCLUDING NYC METRO AREA.

DISCUSSION...INCREASINGLY WELL-ORGANIZED SQUALL LINE...WITH EMBEDDED

BOW/LEWP SEGMENTS...WAS EVIDENT AT 1930Z FROM STEUBEN COUNTY NY SWWD

TO COLUMBIANA COUNTY OH...BECOMING MORE BKN SWWD OVER SERN OH. THIS

ACTIVITY CONTINUES MOVING EWD 40-50 KT...WITH LOCAL VARIATIONS AS

COLD-POOL SURGES OCCUR...AND WILL MOVE INTO FAVORABLY

UNSTABLE/BUOYANT AIR MASS ACROSS CENTRAL/ERN PA AND EVENTUALLY EWD

TO SRN NEW ENGLAND. MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH

WHILE CINH INCREASES WITH EWD EXTENT...PER 18Z RAOBS.

HOWEVER...STG BOUNDARY-LAYER HEATING IS FCST...WITH LOW-LEVEL WLYS

ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO CAPE THROUGH MOISTURE ADVECTION/TRANSPORT. AS

SUCH...FAVORABLE AIR MASS WILL SPREAD/DEVELOP EWD OVER CT/RI/LONG

ISLAND. THIS CORRIDOR WILL REMAIN BENEATH SRN RIM OF STRONGEST

MIDLEVEL WINDS...CONTRIBUTING TO EFFECTIVE SHEAR MAGNITUDES 40-50

KT. DIFFUSE SFC WARM FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE NEWD OVER ERN/NRN

PA INTO SERN NY. NEARLY UNIDIRECTIONAL WIND PROFILES SHOULD

CONTINUE...BUT WITH SLGT VEERING IN LOWEST 1-2 KM AGL INVOF WARM

FRONT.

..EDWARDS.. 07/26/2012

ATTN...WFO...BOX...OKX...ALY...PHI...BGM...BUF...CTP...LWX...

PBZ...RLX...CLE...JKL...ILN...LMK...IWX...

LAT...LON 38798495 39988466 41618313 42337923 42057718 41177637

41467396 42007191 41227146 40737280 40487399 39877405

39337436 38917499 39307537 39727589 39497809 38787969

38148113 38348404 38798495

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WWUS30 KWNS 261955

SAW7

SPC AWW 261955

WW 527 SEVERE TSTM CT MA NJ NY PA CW 262000Z - 270300Z

AXIS..65 STATUTE MILES NORTH AND SOUTH OF LINE..

25NNE GON/GROTON CT/ - 65NW ILG/WILMINGTON DE/

..AVIATION COORDS.. 55NM N/S /20W PVD - 26ENE HAR/

HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT..2 INCHES. WIND GUSTS..70 KNOTS.

MAX TOPS TO 500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 27045.

LAT...LON 40727186 39407645 41277645 42597186

THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION TO THE WATCH AREA. FOR A

COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE WOUS64 KWNS

FOR WOU7.

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WOUS64 KWNS 261955

WOU7

BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 527

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

400 PM EDT THU JUL 26 2012

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 527 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM EDT

FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

CTC001-003-007-009-011-013-015-270300-

/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0527.120726T2000Z-120727T0300Z/

CT

. CONNECTICUT COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

FAIRFIELD HARTFORD MIDDLESEX

NEW HAVEN NEW LONDON TOLLAND

WINDHAM

MAC011-013-015-270300-

/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0527.120726T2000Z-120727T0300Z/

MA

. MASSACHUSETTS COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

FRANKLIN HAMPDEN HAMPSHIRE

NJC003-005-007-013-015-017-019-021-023-025-027-029-031-035-037-

039-041-270300-

/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0527.120726T2000Z-120727T0300Z/

NJ

. NEW JERSEY COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

BERGEN BURLINGTON CAMDEN

ESSEX GLOUCESTER HUDSON

HUNTERDON MERCER MIDDLESEX

MONMOUTH MORRIS OCEAN

PASSAIC SOMERSET SUSSEX

UNION WARREN

NYC005-047-059-061-071-079-081-085-087-103-119-270300-

/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0527.120726T2000Z-120727T0300Z/

NY

. NEW YORK COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

BRONX KINGS NASSAU

NEW YORK ORANGE PUTNAM

QUEENS RICHMOND ROCKLAND

SUFFOLK WESTCHESTER

PAC011-017-025-029-045-077-089-091-095-101-270300-

/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0527.120726T2000Z-120727T0300Z/

PA

. PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

BERKS BUCKS CARBON

CHESTER DELAWARE LEHIGH

MONROE MONTGOMERY NORTHAMPTON

PHILADELPHIA

ANZ330-335-338-340-345-350-353-355-450-451-270300-

/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0527.120726T2000Z-120727T0300Z/

CW

. ADJACENT COASTAL WATERS INCLUDED ARE

LONG ISLAND SOUND EAST OF NEW HAVEN CT/PORT JEFFERSON NY

LONG ISLAND SOUND WEST OF NEW HAVEN CT/PORT JEFFERSON NY

NEW YORK HARBOR

PECONIC AND GARDINERS BAYS

SOUTH SHORE BAYS FROM JONES INLET THROUGH SHINNECOCK BAY

MORICHES INLET NY TO MONTAUK POINT NY OUT 20 NM

FIRE ISLAND INLET NY TO MORICHES INLET NY OUT 20 NM

SANDY HOOK NJ TO FIRE ISLAND INLET NY OUT 20 NM

COASTAL WATERS FROM SANDY HOOK TO MANASQUAN INLET NJ OUT 20 NM

COASTAL WATERS FROM MANASQUAN INLET TO LITTLE EGG INLET NJ OUT 20

NM

ATTN...WFO...OKX...PHI...BOX...

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 527

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

400 PM EDT THU JUL 26 2012

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

CONNECTICUT

WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS

NORTHERN AND CENTRAL NEW JERSEY

SOUTHEAST NEW YORK

EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA

COASTAL WATERS

EFFECTIVE THIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 400 PM UNTIL

1100 PM EDT.

HAIL TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80

MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 65

STATUTE MILES NORTH AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM 25 MILES NORTH

NORTHEAST OF GROTON CONNECTICUT TO 65 MILES NORTHWEST OF

WILMINGTON DELAWARE. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE

THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU7).

REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE

FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH

AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR

THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS

AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY

DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 524...WW 525...WW 526...

DISCUSSION...A LINE OF FAST-MOVING THUNDERSTORMS OVER CENTRAL PA

WILL TRACK ACROSS THE WATCH AREA THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. RAPID

AIRMASS DESTABILIZATION COUPLED WITH FAST LOW/MID LEVEL WESTERLY

FLOW WILL PROMOTE A RISK OF RATHER WIDESPREAD DAMAGING WINDS AND

SOME HAIL. ISOLATED TORNADOES CANNOT BE RULED OUT IN STORMS THAT

FORM AHEAD OF THE LINE...AND IN THE MORE INTENSE BOW/LEWP

STRUCTURES.

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Just some raw #'s out there between thermos and shear profiles:

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Those #'s are in the 120

Range.. Dont think I've seen them that high in our neck of the woods in a long time!

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And what a beauty of a sat pic

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