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July 1-8, 2012 Heat & Storms


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  On 7/8/2012 at 7:21 PM, mattmfm said:

Gotta admit, not really sure what's keeping these storms from going up. Great cape, decent (and increasing) shear...

Shear is marginal at best ... sfc - 6km under 30kts. Also, low level wind fields aren't overly great either ... which helps to put a lid on new cells forming and sustaining themselves along gust fronts.

Mid level lapse rates are marginal.

Lastly, PWATS are very high which means you have a lot of mass to lift in the updrafts today. Without good shear/SR winds to vacate that mass, updrafts will struggle.

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  On 7/8/2012 at 7:48 PM, yoda said:

The Loudoun/Montgomery one was cancelled at 345 for weakening... and now they rewarned it minutes later? Ok then...

winds dont look svr on radar.. plus it's not moving the shape of the box

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  On 7/8/2012 at 7:50 PM, Ian said:

winds dont look svr on radar.. plus it's not moving the shape of the box

Re: the polygon warning boxes - there have been some weird shaped ones in the days since 6/29 - there was one the other day that was way bigger than it needed to be. I seem to remember LWX canceling a huge chunk that hadn't seen so much as a drop of rain within 10 or 15 minutes of the issuance.

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  On 7/8/2012 at 7:51 PM, mattmfm said:

Hail up to the size of quarters? :lol: The tops are 13,000 ft...

for tops it's too close to the radar if you're looking at lwx

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  On 7/8/2012 at 7:37 PM, yoda said:

Seems like its taking its sweet time moving too... hoping that storm can get me in Southern fairfax later.. as Ian said above, storms seem to have a more easterly component of late

That big cell just south of Leesburg looks like it's got its eye on us, yoda.

[knock on wood]

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  On 7/8/2012 at 7:50 PM, Ian said:

winds dont look svr on radar.. plus it's not moving the shape of the box

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Not a 100% sure, but I guess they did it because reflectivites aloft jumped again right after the warning was dropped. Between that and what they are seeing out their window, they must fell like it will be become severe again.

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  On 7/8/2012 at 7:55 PM, thunderman said:

Not a 100% sure, but I guess they did it because reflectivites aloft jumped again right after the warning was dropped. Between that and what they are seeing out their window, they must fell like it will be become severe again.

It does look a bit better but the box is still odd as it's running south of it already

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  On 7/8/2012 at 8:04 PM, mattmfm said:

DC still 101, and looks like we're in for some showers with storms to the south. meh

Sucks to get missed by the derecho. At least we saw some derecho clouds.

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