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JULY 2012 Severe Weather /Convection Discussion


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The 00z NAM isn't the first model to show the potential MCS activity late Wednesday, but now that it's beginning to come into its range...we should begin to see some interesting solutions.

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.MODEL CONSENSUS IS THAT UPPER RIDGE WILL CONTINUE

TO BUILD NWD. SCATTERED STORMS...A FEW OF WHICH COULD BE SEVERE

STORMS WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE ALONG PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE FROM THE

NRN PLAINS...GREAT LAKES AND SEWD INTO THE MID ATLANTIC AND SERN

STATES.

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The 00z NAM isn't the first model to show the potential MCS activity late Wednesday, but now that it's beginning to come into its range...we should begin to see some interesting solutions.

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.MODEL CONSENSUS IS THAT UPPER RIDGE WILL CONTINUE

TO BUILD NWD. SCATTERED STORMS...A FEW OF WHICH COULD BE SEVERE

STORMS WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE ALONG PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE FROM THE

NRN PLAINS...GREAT LAKES AND SEWD INTO THE MID ATLANTIC AND SERN

STATES.

i think this setup does impact areas north of the mid atlantic but hopefully doesnt go too far north and miss us the other direction lol.....also how strong would thid be compared to the derecho that hit the mid atlantic would be the big question as we get closer to the event tommorow and tuesday

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Forecast soundings indicate that any of the scattered storms that do develop later will have a shot a going severe.

definitely lame!

Please not today, been planning this bbq for 2 weeks

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Hopefully some good storms today and I pefer Thurday instead of 4th of July because I got some big plans and plus I will be on Long Island on the 4th in a Anti-Thunderstorm location.

wow thanks, wish for storms when i have plans, but not when you have plans, not cool.

Trials, why do you think north shore of the island in particular? or just saying that to piss me off...

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wow thanks, wish for storms when i have plans, but not when you have plans, not cool.

Trials, why do you think north shore of the island in particular? or just saying that to piss me off...

north shore has a better chance of seeing more organized storms than the south shore. you'll have less seabreeze influence for one thats for sure

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north shore has a better chance of seeing more organized storms than the south shore. you'll have less seabreeze influence for one thats for sure

yea, i am more mid-island anyway and Upton only has slight chance of storms, 20% so doesnt seem to be a major deal

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yea, i am more mid-island anyway and Upton only has slight chance of storms, 20% so doesnt seem to be a major deal

today isnt gonna be that widespread, so 20% does sound fair. whatever storms do develop def could go severe though, wednesday/thursday is the time period to watch for an MCS possibility.

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1332

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1111 AM CDT SUN JUL 01 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...THE NORTHEAST/UPPER MID-ATLANTIC

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH LIKELY

VALID 011611Z - 011715Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENT

SUMMARY...SCATTERED TSTMS SHOULD FORM THIS AFTERNOON WITH ATTENDANT

THREATS FOR SEVERE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND. AREA WILL BE UPGRADED TO

SLIGHT RISK WITH THE 1630Z D1 OUTLOOK AND WATCH ISSUANCE WILL BE

CONSIDERED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.

DISCUSSION...CU HAS INITIATED ALONG THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF SRN NY

INTO CNTRL PA ALONG A WEAK LOW-LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE BENEATH THE

INFLUENCE OF SUBTLE UPPER-LEVEL IMPULSES CROSSING THE LOWER GREAT

LAKES. 12Z OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE ALONG WITH RECENT HRRR RUNS HAVE A

PRONOUNCED SIGNAL FOR CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT...LEADING TO INCREASING

CONFIDENCE THAT POTENTIALLY SCATTERED TSTMS SHOULD FORM CENTERED

TOWARDS THE HUDSON VALLEY. SURFACE TEMPERATURES HAVE WARMED INTO THE

UPPER 80S AND LOWER 90S WITH DEW POINTS HOLDING IN THE MIDDLE TO

UPPER 60S...WHICH IS YIELDING MODERATE BUOYANCY /INCREASING WITH SRN

EXTENT/ PER MODIFIED 12Z IAD/OKX RAOBS. MODERATELY STRONG NEARLY

UNIDIRECTIONAL WLY FLOW WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR ORGANIZING UPDRAFTS

WITH THREATS OF SEVERE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND.

..GRAMS/THOMPSON.. 07/01/2012

ATTN...WFO...BOX...OKX...ALY...PHI...BGM...CTP...LWX...

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http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0444.html

BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 444
 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
 135 PM EDT SUN JUL 1 2012

 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 444 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 800 PM EDT
 FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

 CTC001-003-005-007-009-011-013-015-020000-
 /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0444.120701T1735Z-120702T0000Z/

 CT
 .    CONNECTICUT COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

 FAIRFIELD		    HARTFORD		    LITCHFIELD		 
 MIDDLESEX		    NEW HAVEN		   NEW LONDON		 
 TOLLAND			  WINDHAM			


 NJC003-013-017-019-021-023-025-027-031-035-037-039-041-020000-
 /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0444.120701T1735Z-120702T0000Z/

 NJ
 .    NEW JERSEY COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

 BERGEN			   ESSEX			   HUDSON			 
 HUNTERDON		    MERCER			  MIDDLESEX		  
 MONMOUTH			 MORRIS			  PASSAIC			
 SOMERSET			 SUSSEX			  UNION			  
 WARREN			  


 NYC005-027-047-059-061-071-079-081-085-087-103-111-119-020000-
 /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0444.120701T1735Z-120702T0000Z/

 NY
 .    NEW YORK COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

 BRONX			    DUTCHESS		    KINGS			  
 NASSAU			   NEW YORK		    ORANGE			 
 PUTNAM			   QUEENS			  RICHMOND		   
 ROCKLAND			 SUFFOLK			 ULSTER			 
 WESTCHESTER		 


 PAC011-017-025-077-089-091-095-020000-
 /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0444.120701T1735Z-120702T0000Z/

 PA
 .    PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

 BERKS			    BUCKS			   CARBON			 
 LEHIGH			   MONROE			  MONTGOMERY		 
 NORTHAMPTON		 


 ANZ330-335-338-340-345-350-353-355-450-020000-
 /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0444.120701T1735Z-120702T0000Z/

 CW

 .    ADJACENT COASTAL WATERS INCLUDED ARE

 LONG ISLAND SOUND EAST OF NEW HAVEN CT/PORT JEFFERSON NY

 LONG ISLAND SOUND WEST OF NEW HAVEN CT/PORT JEFFERSON NY

 NEW YORK HARBOR

 PECONIC AND GARDINERS BAYS

 SOUTH SHORE BAYS FROM JONES INLET THROUGH SHINNECOCK BAY

 MORICHES INLET NY TO MONTAUK POINT NY OUT 20 NM

 FIRE ISLAND INLET NY TO MORICHES INLET NY OUT 20 NM

 SANDY HOOK NJ TO FIRE ISLAND INLET NY OUT 20 NM

 COASTAL WATERS FROM SANDY HOOK TO MANASQUAN INLET NJ OUT 20 NM

 ATTN...WFO...OKX...PHI...ALY...BOX...

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Cells popping near Hartford, part of the same cumulus that came out of eastern NY. Still just high whispy clouds right now on the CT coast.

same here i just hope these storms just dont stay to our north the entire day. it would be an egg in face if in three days we miss north and south of us :facepalm:

when these cells develop there getting going fast as well

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1" size hail reported in Dutchess

0130 PM HAIL CLINTON CORNERS 41.83N 73.76W

07/01/2012 M1.00 INCH DUTCHESS NY PUBLIC

have a feeling also in the next few scans there gonna be a line developing as some showers/storms are developing to the northeast as well adjacent to the storm

edit: just had two cells now merging into line with cell coming out of dutchess into conneticut

nearly 2 inch inch hail now in dutchess county, line is getting better organized now

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