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July 2012 Observations and Discussions


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Have you ever heard of the Watchung Mtns? By the way, clouds starting to move in, but NOT completely filtering out the sun, 99.7, so 2 days of 100+ here in Elizabeth this season.

What about them? I'm not sure what your point is. Major tri state stations were all in the mid 90s at 1pm when this conversation started:

http://forecast.weather.gov/obslocal.php?warnzone=NYZ176&local_place=Flushing%20NY&zoneid=&offset=

Now the link is showing 2pm so you would need to click each individual station to see thy 1pm readings.

Meanwhile JFK shot up to 99! I guess the south wind is no longer there.

I'm sure it's hotter now but that wasn't the point.

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It's in the upper 90s everywhere...it's not an outlier.

It has a warm bias...its constantly warmer every day then every other station....u guys get so defensive about it...mets in sne have even said this....its not a heat sink every day...

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It has a warm bias...its constantly warmer every day then every other station....u guys get so defensive about it...mets in sne have even said this....its not a heat sink every day...

Any met that lives 200 miles away and claims about one particular station having a bias is a complete ***hole. Period. It was 100 at Newark today, and 100 at my station, which is in a certified cooperative observer location, and only 2 miles from EWR. Down to 97 now wth clouds. Your point is what, exactly?

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Any met that lives 200 miles away and claims about one particular station having a bias is a complete ***hole. Period. It was 100 at Newark today, and 100 at my station, which is in a certified cooperative observer location, and only 2 miles from EWR. Down to 97 now wth clouds. Your point is what, exactly?

What was your temperature on your station at 12:51pm?

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It has a warm bias...its constantly warmer every day then every other station....u guys get so defensive about it...mets in sne have even said this....its not a heat sink every day...

Newark was cooler than surrounding stations 1/2 of June and parts of the other half were tied or 1-2 degrees warmer than the other NWS stations, not including other observers nearby. It's true that Newark usually has the warmest temperatures during heat waves but I don't see anything wrong with Newark.

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Somerville topped at 98, JFK at 99. The NJ temperature map clearly shows heat is focused south of Teterboro today:

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The conversation was about temps at 1pm. Temps were NOT widespread upper 90s at 1pm. I don't care what the temperature is in central Jersey on south. The tristate area (which is this forum) was not in the upper 90s at 1pm except for Newark. It was the only area official station that was that high, and by a long shot. The next closest was 96.

I'm talking about the stations we usually monitor for temps in the area, like Newark, the park, LGA, JFK, Bridgeport, White Plains, etc.

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I'm located almost directly between TEB and EWR and topped out at 98.2 before it got cloudy. I thought the 100 seemed about right, but 102 seems a little extreme. JFK is up to 99 though, so I guess it's not that unreasonable.

Again, what was your temp at 12:51 when Newark recorded 100 (and is still at 100 as of 1:51 btw)? those are the true and accurate comparisons.

I'm still curious about analog96's 12:51 reading from his station.

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Again, what was your temp at 12:51 when Newark recorded 100 (and is still at 100 as of 1:51 btw)? those are the true and accurate comparisons.

I'm still curious about analog96's 12:51 reading from his station.

Compare with LDJ (Linden) - the sites are even or within a degree. Newark is more representative of the more urban areas of NJ than the park.

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Compare with LDJ (Linden) - the sites are even or within a degree. Newark is more representative of the more urban areas of NJ than the park.

Indeed but at 1pm no major station was at 100, not even close. The point is that the vast majority of us had temps in the mid 90s when Newark was at 100 already, not that Newark is inaccurate. People were saying that our region was experiencing upper 90s at 1pm which was simply not true.

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Again, what was your temp at 12:51 when Newark recorded 100 (and is still at 100 as of 1:51 btw)? those are the true and accurate comparisons.

I'm still curious about analog96's 12:51 reading from his station.

I was 97.3 at 1PM (hit 98.2 at 1:21PM) and had dropped down to 96.4 at 2PM.

To be fair though, my area is a little more suburban than Newark, and since the airport is about 7 miles south of me, the clouds rolled in a little bit later there.

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Most of the NYC area east of the Hudson and north of lower Manh. dodged the heat bullet today. Ok, KNYC topped out at 97F earlier this afternoon, but temps. stayed primarily in the low 90's, because of the high, occasionally broken cirrus layers, with moderate dps (mid 60's). Sorry to the unfortunate posters who live to the south and west (SI and NJ).

KNYC 072051Z AUTO VRB03KT 9SM CLR 31/21 A2982 RMK AO2 SLP087 T03110206 58012

KNYC 071951Z AUTO VRB03KT 9SM CLR 31/20 A2984 RMK AO2 SLP095 T03060200

KNYC 071851Z AUTO VRB06KT 10SM CLR 32/19 A2984 RMK AO2 SLP095 T03220189

KNYC 071751Z AUTO 30009G17KT 160V350 10SM FEW085 35/16 A2985 RMK AO2 SLP099 T03500161 10361 20267 56003

KNYC 071651Z AUTO 9SM CLR 35/19 A2985 RMK AO2 SLP099 T03500189

KNYC 071551Z AUTO VRB06KT 9SM CLR 34/19 A2986 RMK AO2 SLP100 T03390194

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