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NYC Metro 2010s Monthly Temperature Departure Thread


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........NYC..LGA...JFK..EWR...AVG

1-10...+0.4..+0.4...+0.3..+1.1...+0.6
2-10...-0.5...-1.0...-0.4...-0.6...-0.9
3-10...+5.7..+5.7..+6.2...+6.0..+5.9
4-10...+5.4...+5.9..+5.3...+5.6..+5.6
5-10...+2.7...+3.8...+4.2...+3.5..+3.6
6-10..+3.4...+4.5....+5.7....+4.3..+4.5
7-10...+4.8...+5.7...+5.9...+5.1...+5.4
8-10...+2.3..+2.7...+2.1...+2.2...+2.3
9-10...+3.6...+3.9...+3.2...+3.8...+3.6
10-10..+1.5...+2.5...+2.0...+1.9...+2.0
11-10..+0.8...+1.8...+1.0...+0.9...+1.1
12-10..-4.5...-2.9....-4.2....-3.5...-3.8

1-11...-2.4...-0.7...-2.7...-1.8...-1.9
2-11...+1.4...+1.7..+1.4..+2.6..+1.8
3-11..-0.2..-0.4...+1.3...+1.4...+0.7
4-11..+1.8..+0.9...+1.9...+3.2...+2.0
5-11...+1.9...+1.1..+3.2...+2.9...+2.3
6-11...+1.1...+1.2...+3.3...+2.5...+2.0
7-11...+3.7...+3.3...+5.0..+5.5...+4.4
8-11...+0.1..-0.3...+0.6...+1.1.....+0.4
9-11...+2.0...+1.6...+1.7...+3.0...+2.1
10-11..+0.2...+0.2...+1.0....+1.5...+0.7
11-11..+4.2...+3.8...+3.3...+4.1....+3.9
12-11...+5.8...+5.5..+4.8...+6.0....+5.4

1-12....+4.7..+4.6..+4.5...+5.4.....+4.8
2-12.....+5.6..+6.1..+5.4...+5.9...+5.6
3-12....+8.4...+8.6...+6.9...+9.2...+8.3
4-12....+1.8...+3.0...+2.8...+2.4.....+2.5
5-12....+2.7...+3.3...+3.4....+3.7....+3.3


I wanted to start a thread that we can update each month with the local monthly temperature departures and the average
of NYC, LGA, JFK, and EWR for the 2010s.

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........NYC..LGA...JFK..EWR...AVG

1-10...+0.4..+0.4...+0.3..+1.1...+0.6

2-10...-0.5...-1.0...-0.4...-0.6...-0.9

3-10...+5.7..+5.7..+6.2...+6.0..+5.9

4-10...+5.4...+5.9..+5.3...+5.6..+5.6

5-10...+2.7...+3.8...+4.2...+3.5..+3.6

6-10..+3.4...+4.5....+5.7....+4.3..+4.5

7-10...+4.8...+5.7...+5.9...+5.1...+5.4

8-10...+2.3..+2.7...+2.1...+2.2...+2.3

9-10...+3.6...+3.9...+3.2...+3.8...+3.6

10-10..+1.5...+2.5...+2.0...+1.9...+2.0

11-10..+0.8...+1.8...+1.0...+0.9...+1.1

12-10..-4.5...-2.9....-4.2....-3.5...-3.8

1-11...-2.4...-0.7...-2.7...-1.8...-1.9

2-11...+1.4...+1.7..+1.4..+2.6..+1.8

3-11..-0.2..-0.4...+1.3...+1.4...+0.7

4-11..+1.8..+0.9...+1.9...+3.2...+2.0

5-11...+1.9...+1.1..+3.2...+2.9...+2.3

6-11...+1.1...+1.2...+3.3...+2.5...+2.0

7-11...+3.7...+3.3...+5.0..+5.5...+4.4

8-11...+0.1..-0.3...+0.6...+1.1.....+0.4

9-11...+2.0...+1.6...+1.7...+3.0...+2.1

10-11..+0.2...+0.2...+1.0....+1.5...+0.7

11-11..+4.2...+3.8...+3.3...+4.1....+3.9

12-11...+5.8...+5.5..+4.8...+6.0....+5.4

1-12....+4.7..+4.6..+4.5...+5.4.....+4.8

2-12.....+5.6..+6.1..+5.4...+5.9...+5.6

3-12....+8.4...+8.6...+6.9...+9.2...+8.3

4-12....+1.8...+3.0...+2.8...+2.4.....+2.5

5-12....+2.7...+3.3...+3.4....+3.7....+3.3

I wanted to start a thread that we can update each month with the local monthly temperature departures and the average

of NYC, LGA, JFK, and EWR for the 2010s.

looks like LGA's seven straight months of +3 or over will end...remarkable stat...

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........NYC..LGA...JFK..EWR...AVG

1-10...+0.4..+0.4...+0.3..+1.1...+0.6

2-10...-0.5...-1.0...-0.4...-0.6...-0.9

3-10...+5.7..+5.7..+6.2...+6.0..+5.9

4-10...+5.4...+5.9..+5.3...+5.6..+5.6

5-10...+2.7...+3.8...+4.2...+3.5..+3.6

6-10..+3.4...+4.5....+5.7....+4.3..+4.5

7-10...+4.8...+5.7...+5.9...+5.1...+5.4

8-10...+2.3..+2.7...+2.1...+2.2...+2.3

9-10...+3.6...+3.9...+3.2...+3.8...+3.6

10-10..+1.5...+2.5...+2.0...+1.9...+2.0

11-10..+0.8...+1.8...+1.0...+0.9...+1.1

12-10..-4.5...-2.9....-4.2....-3.5...-3.8

1-11...-2.4...-0.7...-2.7...-1.8...-1.9

2-11...+1.4...+1.7..+1.4..+2.6..+1.8

3-11..-0.2..-0.4...+1.3...+1.4...+0.7

4-11..+1.8..+0.9...+1.9...+3.2...+2.0

5-11...+1.9...+1.1..+3.2...+2.9...+2.3

6-11...+1.1...+1.2...+3.3...+2.5...+2.0

7-11...+3.7...+3.3...+5.0..+5.5...+4.4

8-11...+0.1..-0.3...+0.6...+1.1.....+0.4

9-11...+2.0...+1.6...+1.7...+3.0...+2.1

10-11..+0.2...+0.2...+1.0....+1.5...+0.7

11-11..+4.2...+3.8...+3.3...+4.1....+3.9

12-11...+5.8...+5.5..+4.8...+6.0....+5.4

1-12....+4.7..+4.6..+4.5...+5.4.....+4.8

2-12.....+5.6..+6.1..+5.4...+5.9...+5.6

3-12....+8.4...+8.6...+6.9...+9.2...+8.3

4-12....+1.8...+3.0...+2.8...+2.4.....+2.5

5-12....+2.7...+3.3...+3.4....+3.7....+3.3

6-12....-0.5...+0.7....+0.4.....0.0.....+0.2

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........NYC..LGA...JFK..EWR...AVG

1-10...+0.4..+0.4...+0.3..+1.1...+0.6

2-10...-0.5...-1.0...-0.4...-0.6...-0.9

3-10...+5.7..+5.7..+6.2...+6.0..+5.9

4-10...+5.4...+5.9..+5.3...+5.6..+5.6

5-10...+2.7...+3.8...+4.2...+3.5..+3.6

6-10..+3.4...+4.5....+5.7....+4.3..+4.5

7-10...+4.8...+5.7...+5.9...+5.1...+5.4

8-10...+2.3..+2.7...+2.1...+2.2...+2.3

9-10...+3.6...+3.9...+3.2...+3.8...+3.6

10-10..+1.5...+2.5...+2.0...+1.9...+2.0

11-10..+0.8...+1.8...+1.0...+0.9...+1.1

12-10..-4.5...-2.9....-4.2....-3.5...-3.8

1-11...-2.4...-0.7...-2.7...-1.8...-1.9

2-11...+1.4...+1.7..+1.4..+2.6..+1.8

3-11..-0.2..-0.4...+1.3...+1.4...+0.7

4-11..+1.8..+0.9...+1.9...+3.2...+2.0

5-11...+1.9...+1.1..+3.2...+2.9...+2.3

6-11...+1.1...+1.2...+3.3...+2.5...+2.0

7-11...+3.7...+3.3...+5.0..+5.5...+4.4

8-11...+0.1..-0.3...+0.6...+1.1.....+0.4

9-11...+2.0...+1.6...+1.7...+3.0...+2.1

10-11..+0.2...+0.2...+1.0....+1.5...+0.7

11-11..+4.2...+3.8...+3.3...+4.1....+3.9

12-11...+5.8...+5.5..+4.8...+6.0....+5.4

1-12....+4.7..+4.6..+4.5...+5.4.....+4.8

2-12.....+5.6..+6.1..+5.4...+5.9...+5.6

3-12....+8.4...+8.6...+6.9...+9.2...+8.3

4-12....+1.8...+3.0...+2.8...+2.4.....+2.5

5-12....+2.7...+3.3...+3.4....+3.7....+3.3

6-12....-0.5...+0.7....+0.4.....0.0.....+0.2

7-12...+2.3...+3.0....+2.6....+3.4.....+2.8

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........NYC..LGA...JFK..EWR...AVG

1-10...+0.4..+0.4...+0.3..+1.1...+0.6

2-10...-0.5...-1.0...-0.4...-0.6...-0.9

3-10...+5.7..+5.7..+6.2...+6.0..+5.9

4-10...+5.4...+5.9..+5.3...+5.6..+5.6

5-10...+2.7...+3.8...+4.2...+3.5..+3.6

6-10..+3.4...+4.5....+5.7....+4.3..+4.5

7-10...+4.8...+5.7...+5.9...+5.1...+5.4

8-10...+2.3..+2.7...+2.1...+2.2...+2.3

9-10...+3.6...+3.9...+3.2...+3.8...+3.6

10-10..+1.5...+2.5...+2.0...+1.9...+2.0

11-10..+0.8...+1.8...+1.0...+0.9...+1.1

12-10..-4.5...-2.9....-4.2....-3.5...-3.8

1-11...-2.4...-0.7...-2.7...-1.8...-1.9

2-11...+1.4...+1.7..+1.4..+2.6..+1.8

3-11..-0.2..-0.4...+1.3...+1.4...+0.7

4-11..+1.8..+0.9...+1.9...+3.2...+2.0

5-11...+1.9...+1.1..+3.2...+2.9...+2.3

6-11...+1.1...+1.2...+3.3...+2.5...+2.0

7-11...+3.7...+3.3...+5.0..+5.5...+4.4

8-11...+0.1..-0.3...+0.6...+1.1.....+0.4

9-11...+2.0...+1.6...+1.7...+3.0...+2.1

10-11..+0.2...+0.2...+1.0....+1.5...+0.7

11-11..+4.2...+3.8...+3.3...+4.1....+3.9

12-11...+5.8...+5.5..+4.8...+6.0....+5.4

1-12....+4.7..+4.6..+4.5...+5.4.....+4.8

2-12.....+5.6..+6.1..+5.4...+5.9...+5.6

3-12....+8.4...+8.6...+6.9...+9.2...+8.3

4-12....+1.8...+3.0...+2.8...+2.4.....+2.5

5-12....+2.7...+3.3...+3.4....+3.7....+3.3

6-12....-0.5...+0.7....+0.4.....0.0.....+0.2

7-12...+2.3...+3.0....+2.6....+3.4.....+2.8

8-12...+1.5...+2.4...+1.8....+1.8....+1.9

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and the snow bunnies have got theirs with big storms so it evens out

Extraordinarily good luck to have what are essentially the only real below normal months to occur in winter.

I'm just going to expect another scorcher so I don't get my hopes up for nothing.

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........NYC..LGA...JFK..EWR...AVG

1-10...+0.4..+0.4...+0.3..+1.1...+0.6

2-10...-0.5...-1.0...-0.4...-0.6...-0.9

3-10...+5.7..+5.7..+6.2...+6.0..+5.9

4-10...+5.4...+5.9..+5.3...+5.6..+5.6

5-10...+2.7...+3.8...+4.2...+3.5..+3.6

6-10..+3.4...+4.5....+5.7....+4.3..+4.5

7-10...+4.8...+5.7...+5.9...+5.1...+5.4

8-10...+2.3..+2.7...+2.1...+2.2...+2.3

9-10...+3.6...+3.9...+3.2...+3.8...+3.6

10-10..+1.5...+2.5...+2.0...+1.9...+2.0

11-10..+0.8...+1.8...+1.0...+0.9...+1.1

12-10..-4.5...-2.9....-4.2....-3.5...-3.8

1-11...-2.4...-0.7...-2.7...-1.8...-1.9

2-11...+1.4...+1.7..+1.4..+2.6..+1.8

3-11..-0.2..-0.4...+1.3...+1.4...+0.7

4-11..+1.8..+0.9...+1.9...+3.2...+2.0

5-11...+1.9...+1.1..+3.2...+2.9...+2.3

6-11...+1.1...+1.2...+3.3...+2.5...+2.0

7-11...+3.7...+3.3...+5.0..+5.5...+4.4

8-11...+0.1..-0.3...+0.6...+1.1.....+0.4

9-11...+2.0...+1.6...+1.7...+3.0...+2.1

10-11..+0.2...+0.2...+1.0....+1.5...+0.7

11-11..+4.2...+3.8...+3.3...+4.1....+3.9

12-11...+5.8...+5.5..+4.8...+6.0....+5.4

1-12....+4.7..+4.6..+4.5...+5.4.....+4.8

2-12.....+5.6..+6.1..+5.4...+5.9...+5.6

3-12....+8.4...+8.6...+6.9...+9.2...+8.3

4-12....+1.8...+3.0...+2.8...+2.4.....+2.5

5-12....+2.7...+3.3...+3.4....+3.7....+3.3

6-12....-0.5...+0.7....+0.4.....0.0.....+0.2

7-12...+2.3...+3.0....+2.6....+3.4.....+2.8

8-12...+1.5...+2.4...+1.8....+1.8....+1.9

9-12...+0.8...+1.6...+1.1....+1.3...+1.2

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Great thread, I remember a similar thread from the old eastern board where we were discussing 2000's monthly temps. For those who likes snow and warmth, you cant complain abou the last few years (except last winter of course!). I agree with Iso I think we will settle Oct on the cooler side, at first i thought wed continue warm but I am growing increasingly convinced we will have a period of much below normal to tip the scale for the enitre month negative. That period is likely the 9th - 19th.

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How about we chose some stations that are not as corrupted by UHI and 747's.

HPN, ISP, TTN, DXR, etc

The tarmac of Newark and LaGuardia is not the best representation of the region as a whole and those who live close by can attest to the temperature differences that go on.

But how do you explain Central Park? Manhattan and surrounding areas have been built up for 100 years. Manhattan itself even longer, especially where they were taking the measurements back then.

Don't forget these averages are also based on the 1981-2010 average. Even when compared to the warmest 30 year climatological set we are above average. That's pathetic and there's no denying the incredible stretch of warmth we've been in.

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But how do you explain Central Park? Manhattan and surrounding areas have been built up for 100 years. Manhattan itself even longer, especially where they were taking the measurements back then.

Don't forget these averages are also based on the 1981-2010 average. Even when compared to the warmest 30 year climatological set we are above average. That's pathetic and there's no denying the incredible stretch of warmth we've been in.

Yep, there's definitely no denying that North America has seen a historic stretch of warmth from 2010-2012. In all likelihood, the past two years were a strong aberration from normal, and we're unlikely to continue w/ this level of warmth in future years.

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But how do you explain Central Park? Manhattan and surrounding areas have been built up for 100 years. Manhattan itself even longer, especially where they were taking the measurements back then.

Don't forget these averages are also based on the 1981-2010 average. Even when compared to the warmest 30 year climatological set we are above average. That's pathetic and there's no denying the incredible stretch of warmth we've been in.

Im not arguing that it hasnt been warm...not at all, in fact its been warm as hell the past few years.

Manhattan is part of a greater metropolitan area that has been built up significantly in the past 100 years. The island itself may have already been paved over since then, but as time went on, NNJ, LI, Westchester all urbanized and grew as well. You cant honestly tell me that UHI has not grown in the past 100 years....

How many times have you and AG3 commented that LGA is 5+ degrees warmer than both of you when you live so close by? We've heard it often, especially when it comes to lows.

All im saying is why not show both UHI stations and non-UHI stations?

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we have been down this road before...the 68.0 is smoothed...the real average is 68.4...it makes it seem warmer than it really was...I use the real averages for my records...to me the 68.0 is bogus...

The NCDC sometimes makes changes to the raw data to account for changes in instrumentation and station moves.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/normals/usnormals.html

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Im not arguing that it hasnt been warm...not at all, in fact its been warm as hell the past few years.

Manhattan is part of a greater metropolitan area that has been built up significantly in the past 100 years. The island itself may have already been paved over since then, but as time went on, NNJ, LI, Westchester all urbanized and grew as well. You cant honestly tell me that UHI has not grown in the past 100 years....

How many times have you and AG3 commented that LGA is 5+ degrees warmer than both of you when you live so close by? We've heard it often, especially when it comes to lows.

All im saying is why not show both UHI stations and non-UHI stations?

Those are the official reporting stations for our area. You see the same trends relative to the means at rural

locations also. Just look at the NCDC supplemental that also has rural locations to see the record warmth

recently at those locations just like the more urban areas. Relative to the means, the greatest warming recently

has occurred in Arctic which is undeveloped.

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........NYC..LGA...JFK..EWR...AVG

1-10...+0.4..+0.4...+0.3..+1.1...+0.6

2-10...-0.5...-1.0...-0.4...-0.6...-0.9

3-10...+5.7..+5.7..+6.2...+6.0..+5.9

4-10...+5.4...+5.9..+5.3...+5.6..+5.6

5-10...+2.7...+3.8...+4.2...+3.5..+3.6

6-10..+3.4...+4.5....+5.7....+4.3..+4.5

7-10...+4.8...+5.7...+5.9...+5.1...+5.4

8-10...+2.3..+2.7...+2.1...+2.2...+2.3

9-10...+3.6...+3.9...+3.2...+3.8...+3.6

10-10..+1.5...+2.5...+2.0...+1.9...+2.0

11-10..+0.8...+1.8...+1.0...+0.9...+1.1

12-10..-4.5...-2.9....-4.2....-3.5...-3.8

1-11...-2.4...-0.7...-2.7...-1.8...-1.9

2-11...+1.4...+1.7..+1.4..+2.6..+1.8

3-11..-0.2..-0.4...+1.3...+1.4...+0.7

4-11..+1.8..+0.9...+1.9...+3.2...+2.0

5-11...+1.9...+1.1..+3.2...+2.9...+2.3

6-11...+1.1...+1.2...+3.3...+2.5...+2.0

7-11...+3.7...+3.3...+5.0..+5.5...+4.4

8-11...+0.1..-0.3...+0.6...+1.1.....+0.4

9-11...+2.0...+1.6...+1.7...+3.0...+2.1

10-11..+0.2...+0.2...+1.0....+1.5...+0.7

11-11..+4.2...+3.8...+3.3...+4.1....+3.9

12-11...+5.8...+5.5..+4.8...+6.0....+5.4

1-12....+4.7..+4.6..+4.5...+5.4.....+4.8

2-12.....+5.6..+6.1..+5.4...+5.9...+5.6

3-12....+8.4...+8.6...+6.9...+9.2...+8.3

4-12....+1.8...+3.0...+2.8...+2.4.....+2.5

5-12....+2.7...+3.3...+3.4....+3.7....+3.3

6-12....-0.5...+0.7....+0.4.....0.0.....+0.2

7-12...+2.3...+3.0....+2.6....+3.4.....+2.8

8-12...+1.5...+2.4...+1.8....+1.8....+1.9

9-12...+0.8...+1.6...+1.1....+1.3...+1.2

10-12..+1.1...+1.9...+2.1..+2.2...+1.8

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Guest Pamela

At Central Park, December 2012 was 1.8 F cooler than December 2011. June, July, & September have gotten cooler each year over the past 3 years; April is 0.1 degrees from being in that group. I think we are headed in the proper direction...

<Half seriously>

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