turtlehurricane Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Turtle- At least I had some rain in June...Madison is toast...fried. Awesome year for severe wx. ... i think i saw some lightning a month ago. This is the most boring summer ever when it comes to tstorms for me, and ya only a third of an inch of rain at MSN since 6/1! Hopefully ring of fire storms start happening, you'd figure that wouldn't be a problem with such heat. Lake Mendota sfc temp at 85 °F, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Probably get some flesh eating bacteria in Mendota... Even Wazee was like bathwater and that lake is usually in the 70Fs all summer (its 350ft deep). Turned the AC back on...screw this "cool" down... Was 86F in the living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Was up at the track the last hour or so. Was nice watching the thunderheads to the north build and change shape. Was pretty hot out on the track with little to no wind. Looks like the high will end up being 93 here. Clouds have increased some and knocked back the temp a few degrees. Was hoping to get lucky and get a brief downpour but the good cells just to the north crapped the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoar_Frost Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Made it to 93 earlier, but it's been fairly cloudy with an occasionally gusty E/NE wind in the last couple of hours. Temperature is now 83, and dewpoint is 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Its drier for sure...dew points down to 55F here... La Crosse: MORE SIGNIFICANTLY IS A WARMUP EXPECTED FOR THE WEEKEND. THE EC IS THE WARMEST...JUMPING 850 MB TEMPS INTO THE LOWER 20S WITH ANOMALIES OF 1.5 TO 2. THE GFS IS A FEW DEGREES COOLER. THE EC WAS A BETTER PERFORMER WITH THE SIGNIFICANT STRETCH OF HOT DAYS FOR THE START OF JULY...AND WILL LEAN ON IT FOR TEMPS. 90S WILL RETURN...AND CAN/T RULE OUT A 100 DEGREE DAY EARLY NEXT WEEK. THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE HEAT RELATED HEADLINES HEADING INTO THE WEEKEND/EARLY NEXT WEEK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 DVN bumped temps up to near 90 for the rest of the week with low 90s on the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 IND made it to 90. Make it 91. Still some time for a slight bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Just picked up 0.04" of rain from a minute long downpour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Today is 12 minutes shorter than the solstice, will be interesting to see how cool lows can get as we start to lose daylight, especially if the drought continues. Dewpoint of 53 °F now, so 50s aren't out of the question tonight. Give it 2 months and we can start talking about freezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoar_Frost Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Picked up a trace from a shower that spat for about 15 minutes. Unless more rain occurs later, the streak of days without measurable rainfall is up to eight now. 80/53 now. On overperformance relative to NWS forecast, my point-and-click this morning at 8 was 84, and I ended up at 93. A nine-degree bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Just picked up 0.04" of rain from a minute long downpour. Picked up a trace from a shower that spat for about 15 minutes. Unless more rain occurs later, the streak of days without measurable rainfall is up to eight now. 80/53 now. On overperformance relative to NWS forecast, my point-and-click this morning at 8 was 84, and I ended up at 93. A nine-degree bust. lol. I just got on here to announce that I just picked up .08" on wonderful, refreshing, unforecasted rain and see that I'm not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Today is 12 minutes shorter than the solstice, will be interesting to see how cool lows can get as we start to lose daylight, especially if the drought continues. Dewpoint of 53 °F now, so 50s aren't out of the question tonight. Give it 2 months and we can start talking about freezes. If dryness continues, we could start seeing freezes in September. That would be crazy - finish off what's left of the crops by then. Sounds like I was the coolest spot today. High 84°, low 61°. Haven't needed the AC since mid afternoon Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knitwx Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Our garden is ripening too fast. Since it got hot so fast our broccoli never made heads. I've been picking ripe tomatoes for 2 weeks. This is a month before they usually ripen. My onions never made a bulb and remained like green onions. The corn fields on the north. and East sides of us are drying up. The leaves are a pale grey/green and crumble if touched. The green beans leaves have flipped and some are turning brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoar_Frost Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (Somewhat time-sensitive link ...) Link to the forecast prepared by Gilbert Sebenste, NIU's staff meteorologist: http://www.weather.niu.edu/forecast.txt. Today, he really emphasized the impact of dry topsoil on temperatures, and that is reflected in his temperature forecasts for DeKalb (north-central Illinois, 35 miles or so southeast of Rockford, for those who don't know) that have basically 90 or better each of the next seven days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 If dryness continues, we could start seeing freezes in September. That would be crazy - finish off what's left of the crops by then. Sounds like I was the coolest spot today. High 84°, low 61°. Haven't needed the AC since mid afternoon Saturday. Alot of money could be made from investing in corn, wheat, etc. before the harvest numbers come out and prices spike. If only I knew how to do that correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Made it to 90 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 People must be getting acclimated to this torching weather... got into the mid 80s today but the pool was absolutely dead today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Today is 12 minutes shorter than the solstice, will be interesting to see how cool lows can get as we start to lose daylight, especially if the drought continues. Dewpoint of 53 °F now, so 50s aren't out of the question tonight. Give it 2 months and we can start talking about freezes. Woah...getting ahead of yourself buddy? Our normal highs havent even peaked yet. Since my average freeze isnt until oct 20...i will not be getting one in two months. Sent from my iPhone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Woah...getting ahead of yourself buddy? Our normal highs havent even peaked yet. Since my average freeze isnt until oct 20...i will not be getting one in two months. Sent from my iPhone. There have been many frosts and freezes in Madison during September ( http://www.crh.noaa....=extr&MONTH=sep ), even a few in August. The Milwaukee area is warmer due to the lake so the first freezes don't start showing up until the latter part of September. It might be worthwhile to look into the drought conditions during past September freezes in Madison, there's gotta be a correlation. In South Florida freezes have been on the increase where the Everglades have dried up due to manmade canals and activity. Same principle applies to any drought, the less moisture in the air the quicker it cools off due to a lower heat capacity, and less latent heat release from dew forming. Not to mention the fact that there's more land and less water in drought regions than usual, increasing radiational cooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Turtle....how about this? Precip summer 1936 winter temp 1936 Summer 1936 was a torch...winter not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 There have been many frosts and freezes in Madison during September ( http://www.crh.noaa....=extr&MONTH=sep ), even a few in August. The Milwaukee area is warmer due to the lake so the first freezes don't start showing up until the latter part of September. It might be worthwhile to look into the drought conditions during past September freezes in Madison, there's gotta be a correlation. In South Florida freezes have been on the increase where the Everglades have dried up due to manmade canals and activity. Same principle applies to any drought, the less moisture in the air the quicker it cools off due to a lower heat capacity, and less latent heat release from dew forming. Not to mention the fact that there's more land and less water in drought regions than usual, increasing radiational cooling. It would be interesting to see the lows for September 1988 for starters. I'm betting Madison and many areas in the region experienced early freezes/frosts. Pleasant evening outside tonight, currently 69°/59°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 It would be interesting to see the lows for September 1988 for starters. I'm betting Madison and many areas in the region experienced early freezes/frosts. Pleasant evening outside tonight, currently 69°/59°. Just checked the data for LAF...there were lows in the mid 40's on August 29/30 and a low of 41 on September 7. First freeze occurred on October 6. Tropical better hope for a quick flip to a wet pattern after the summer torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 It's gonna be interesting to see what happens later this summer once the tropics really heat up. A lot of times that can have a huge impact on the pattern over the conus. I've always called it a constipated pattern, cause everything seems to slow way down and stagnate. Maybe it could do some of us some good and lock us into a wettern pattern at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 As for corn and bean prices, they will most likely fall back towards harvest. Bean futures hit an all_time record today. Similar (1988) years saw prices fall 20 to 30 percent by harvest off of summer highs. Thing to remember is there is a lot of speculation in the market and it is not strictly supply and demand related. Profit taking and continued speculation is going to continue to make the market crazy for the next year at least until stocks can build back up. Also as prices fall end users will begin to cut back, the natural ebb and flow and the supply and demand nature of commodity markets. The real wild card is weather during the next six or so years. As we can see many years with droughts of this magnitude were followed uncomfortably close by several years. If we are in a 1930s pattern, God help us, the shear importance of US agriculture on a global scales will really be highlighted. Several years of drought in the coming decade will lead to civil unrest across much of the developing world and will likely creep into places such as China and India as food stocks fall. Interesting and calamitous times are ahead if people start to go hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Out at White Pines State Park (near Oregon, IL) camping until Thurs. It was a nice day today...Storms split us this afternoon. Temps are in the upper 60's now as we sit around the bonfire. Took a drive down to Dixon earlier and there's a decent amount of tree damage just north of town from the activity several days back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Temp ticked up a degree the last ob as winds went calm...strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Alot of money could be made from investing in corn, wheat, etc. before the harvest numbers come out and prices spike. If only I knew how to do that correctly. futures have been reflecting the drought for over a month...that ship has sailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 A few showers are around early this morning. One just to the northwest heading this way. Hopefully we can get something from that. Got down to 63. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I notice the clouds associated with the showers to my south. Probably won't make it this far northeast. Winds are up a little stronger than yesterday morning. At 71° now. Looks like a cooler night ahead with widespread 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Low-level CAA still going but it's pretty weak, will probably end soon. Down to 13.5 °C at 850 hPa over Madison, Greenbay down to 11 °C. Low of 62 °F this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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