Hoosier Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Top 10 snowstorms for Chicago, officially, and the following winter season's snowfall. Except for two cases, 1970-71 and 1979-80, all had below normal snowfall. Kind of interesting. There are two storms on there from the winter of 1929-30, so it's doubled up. Make it 7 out of the 9 following winters had below normal snowfall. Bottom line, enjoy the big snowstorm in Chicago. Because the following winter may not be very good. Jan 26-27, 1967: 23.0" 1967-68 season: 28.4" Jan 1-3, 1999: 21.6" 1999-00 season: 30.3" Jan 31-Feb 2, 2011: 21.2" 2011-12 season: 19.8" Jan 12-14, 1979: 20.3" 1979-80 season: 42.4" Mar 25-26, 1930: 19.2" 1930-31 season: 27.2" Mar 7-8, 1931: 16.2" 1931-32 season: 24.6" Jan 30, 1939: 14.9" 1939-40 season: 31.0" Jan 6-7, 1918: 14.9" 1918-19 season: 28.7" Dec 17-19, 1929: 14.8" 1930-31 season: 27.2" Mar 25-26, 1970: 14.3" 1970-71 season: 37.9" Rolling forward 2 years isn't a whole lot better. Probably doesn't mean much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Rolling forward 2 years isn't a whole lot better. Probably doesn't mean much though. Yeah, I would put zero stock in it personally. Just thought it was more of a coincidence than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yeah, I would put zero stock in it personally. Just thought it was more of a coincidence than anything. Hey, if you are up for it, could you post an update on current snowfall deficits? I always appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Rolling forward 2 years isn't a whole lot better. Probably doesn't mean much though. I didnt type it out, just eyeballed it, but looking at Detroits snowfall during a season following a sub-30" season overwhelmingly show a snowier outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hey, if you are up for it, could you post an update on current snowfall deficits? I always appreciate that. I will leave that to Tim, but really the deficits arent too impressive since its SO early, especially for areas outside the lake belts. Muskegan is at 0.6" which is a -3.6" deficit. Detroit is at 0.4" which is a -0.7" deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hey, if you are up for it, could you post an update on current snowfall deficits? I always appreciate that. Update forthcoming tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Update forthcoming tomorrow. Great! Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I apologize if the 00z GFS was already mentioned, but the long-range looks much more promising. Would be nice to get some support from future runs and the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Wasn't really sure where to put this, though the other option was the complaint thread. Anyways, it's just statistical mumbo jumbo...but I went back to see if there was any statistical leanings based off what happened in November for the following winter for Indianapolis. This exercise completely ignores any actual weather patterns, so take it FWIW. November 2012 finished with a mean temp of 41.4º at IND, so I took every Nov within one degree of that figure (40.4º to 42.4º) and charted the following Dec, Jan, and Feb (records since 1871). In all, there 34 years that met this criteria. But with December looking to most likely average warmer than normal at IND, I eliminated the cold and normal Decembers. I also want to mention, I used the current normals to determine whether a month from the past is above or below...even though that's probably not the best way to do it, for a few reasons. But I needed something easy, so play along. 12 of the Januaries were warmer than normal, 6 below, and 2 normal (within 0.5º of normal). February flips cold though, with 12 of them going below normal. Overall though, warm was the rule for winter. I also did this for precipitation. I went 0.50" either way from the 1.33" that was recorded at IND this November. Drier than normal dominates...again these all based off the 1981-10 normal amounts. But how about the winter of 1949-50? 22.33" of precip, wow. There were four Novembers and DJF periods that shared both charts: 1905, 1933, 1949, and 1954. Combining them doesn't do much better either. March 1906 did have 30.4", by far the snowiest March on record for Indy...and is the second coldest March on record as well. You know, if this actually means something by fluke luck...and we central Indiana people have to wait for wintry appeal. So that's that. I'll accept any hate mail...but for the record, I'm not sure this all means much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Im starting to work on (will finish tomorrow) the history of 60F+ temps in DJF (at Detroit). And big surprise (insert sarcasm), 60F+ days, though fairly infrequent, visited every bit as often, if not more, in yesteryear. Whenever I point out to someone that it snows more now than it used to, they say, that may be, but back then snow always covered the ground all winter. Sorry great great grandpa, stats = another fairytale on winters past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 From DTX's "Today in Southeast Michigan Weather History..." On December 4, 1998, the overnight temperature did not drop below a balmy 51 degrees in Detroit. We'll top that tonight, but can we top what happened just under a month later on January 2nd, 1999? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Might as well lock in a January 1999 repeat. We've beaten it to death so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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