yoda Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 why are there no airport obs since 5am? Power saving? Was about to ask that myself. LWX did just issue 1030 zone forecast updates though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Is that your guys' show for today orming near Chicago? If thats the case, another late night deal for you...good luck. Also, did you guys see the golf course where they're playing the AT&T tourney? Lots of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 No spectators today even if they play at Congressional. http://www.cbssports.com/golf/story/19451411/play-suspended-at-congressional-after-storm-downs-trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 House up the street took a branch through the roof in the master bath. Snapped a pipe. Nobody was home and there is over a foot of water in the basement and serious water damage. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needbiggerboat Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Emptied both freezers and fridges and now in huge line at county dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 2008 owned This might rank up there with some of the benchmark derechoes in cost/size/strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 This might rank up there with some of the benchmark derechoes in cost/size/strength. yeah seems that way. it's gotta be up there on power outages at least tho that always goes back to our infrastructure ailing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 yeah seems that way. it's gotta be up there on power outages at least tho that always goes back to our infrastructure ailing as well. Easily with respect to power outages. Isn't it like 2.5 mill in the DC and Baltimore metro areas alone? Then you add in Western VA/WV/OH/IN there is probably 3 to 4 million people without power right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 yeah seems that way. it's gotta be up there on power outages at least tho that always goes back to our infrastructure ailing as well. Even just for our region, this was super impressive: Number two for power outages, behind Isabel (for comparison, Isabel was more than 5/7 of Pepco customers out.. this one was close, around 4/7). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdhokie Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Got the fridge on a generator, certain streets around here have power, others dont. Been up all night trying to get servers at work back online. Not too hot in the house, yet. Stupid people can't figure out to treat a dark stoplight as a 4 way stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Sitting in the A/C at the in-laws' in South Carolina. Not happy about leaving a half-full fridge with no power at 1:30 am, but we needed to get on the road. Nothing too nasty left behind, though. Hopefully the power comes back on soon and we can get back to only semi-rancid refrozen food. Gives us a reason to clean out the fridge, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC 1107 AM EDT SAT JUN 30 2012 .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... -- Changed Discussion -- ...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR THUNDERSTORMS WITH DAMAGING WINDS LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING... 12Z KIAD ROAB INDICATES THAT THE ATMOSPHERE OVER THE CWA HAS DRIED OUT A LITTLE IN THE WAKE OF LAST NIGHT/S WIDESPREAD SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS. HOWEVER...BELIEVE THIS WILL BE TEMPORARY AS RECOVERY IS ALREADY UNDERWAY ACROSS THE CWA. MODIFIED 12Z RAOB INDICATES AT LEAST 4000 J/KG OF CAPE THIS AFTERNOON...WITH STEEP LAPSE RATES. IN ADDITION TO BEING LOADED WITH INSTABILITY...THERE WILL BE DECENT SHEAR /AT LEAST 40 KT 0-6KM SHEAR/. AS FAR AS LIFTING MECHANISMS...THERE IS A BOUNDARY DRAPED ACROSS THE CWA BUT THE MORE SIGNIFICANT ONE APPEARS TO BE THE IMPULSE/MCV OVER OHIO. SHOWERS WERE WANING WITH THIS FEATURE THIS MORNING...BUT IT IS FORECAST TO MOVE EAST/SOUTHEAST WITH TIME...AND WILL LIKELY INITIATE THUNDERSTORMS DURING THE MID- AFTERNOON POSSIBLY OVER THE NORTHWEST CWA. THIS IS SUGGESTED BY LATEST RUNS OF THE WRF-ARW AND HRRR. THESE MODELS ALSO SUGGEST THAT THUNDERSTORMS WILL ORGANIZE...AND THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THIS ORGANIZATION TAKES ON THE FORM OF A BOWING MCS. THERE IS A LITTLE UNCERTAINTY WITH EXACT EVOLUTION AND TIMING BUT IF THIS MCS DEVELOPS...THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR WIDESPREAD DAMAGING WINDS. -- End Changed Discussion -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Power out through the entire town.. Grocery store trying to get rid of perishables as quickly as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 ekster posted this on FB but going to save it here. crazy sounding at dulles last night.. super eml. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmfm Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Absolutely epic SPC failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 last night i posted on twitter how poorly forecast this was by most people. bob ryan sent me a dm that he strongly disagreed and he was mentioning derecho at 6 p.m. i mean, come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 ekster posted this on FB but going to save it here. crazy sounding at dulles last night.. super eml. If that doesn't satisfy his eml fetish, nothing will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmfm Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 last night i posted on twitter how poorly forecast this was by most people. bob ryan sent me a dm that he strongly disagreed and he was mentioning derecho at 6 p.m. i mean, come on... To SPC's credit, as soon as they saw the development in IN they were on top of it and upgraded. And Washington Post, also to their credit, was using strong language throughout the afternoon. But still.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 To SPC's credit, as soon as they saw the development in IN they were on top of it and upgraded. And Washington Post, also to their credit, was using strong language throughout the afternoon. But still.. i dont think anyone could have realistically had major confidence before it got going but i know lwx was only mentioning morning storms as of the night before and there was little or any mention that should something fire up it could be quite bad. anyone who looked at what the short term models were pumping out ingredients wise should have at least taken note. there's a general over reliance on surface qpf fields even though we hear all the time not to take them as gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Have there ever been back to back derechos for one area before? (as in on consecutive days?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 last night i posted on twitter how poorly forecast this was by most people. bob ryan sent me a dm that he strongly disagreed and he was mentioning derecho at 6 p.m. i mean, come on... Weren't high-res models showing derecho-type potential fairly early yesterday? If so, it amazes me that the pros wouldn't have picked up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Have there ever been back to back derechos for one area before? (as in on consecutive days?) i believe so. the pattern is not terribly frequent but when it happens it tends to set up for a few days. may be more prevalent to the west than here. it's pretty hard to get back to back big svr here just by personal memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmfm Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Still don't seem to really be mixing out allowing recovery from yesterday. 90/64ish at noon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamrivers Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 What is the potential for another derecho today? Only guy updating on 3 stations right now in Winchester so can't really read through the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Accuweather calling it a Super Derecho. http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/deadly-super-derecho-strikes-m/67383 Also makes mention of the May 8th 2009 one that hit here. Food in the fridge is typically good for 4-8 hours at most. In the freezer it can be good for 1-2 days and you can refreeze it if it still has ice crystals. 13z HRRR has a bow echo looking thing to the NW of DC at 21z. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 So does it look like another derecho will blow through later? Ive become Dave's, Andy's and Chrump's go to messager since they are without power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needbiggerboat Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Kind of early for beer, but cracked open first one of the day, as room is needed in the cooler for other perishables. Was only able to salvage a bottle of Grey Goose from the freezers. Heavy traffic volume on the roads, as peeps try to deal with lack of traffic lights. Home Depot picked over in the battery and portable power areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 we're not recovering spectacularly thus far though there isnt a shortage of what's needed for severe weather either. i certainly would not expect something as bad.. but we could definitely still get a large squall line through a smaller area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 yup, still no power. The multiple days without estimate sounds about right in my neighborhood. Feel bad for Clementine's (one of top restaurants in balt city on most lists)...I live within a few houses of them and between them and their really cool new farm-to-market corner store, they are working frantically to save a LOT of food. Updates from you all throughout the day on any developing line of storms again will be much appreciated. Thanks to everyone for this thread last night, let me move friends away from Os game at right time to get them home safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Much sympathy to those without power. We were clearly out of the worst up here. Still, impressive wind, swaying trees, heavy rain, constant lightning and thunder. Looked tropical storm-esque. My neighborhood tends to lose power at the drop of a hat, but amazingly, other than a < one minute loss, we kept it. I feel VERY lucky. Otoh, band practice in Univ. Park today is canceled...or acoustic...I'm voting canceled. Hoping you all get your power back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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