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Northeast Severe/Convective/Thunder thread III


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I do think those 7.5C/KM rates were a little too high on the GFS based on what the lapse rates are across the region east of the Great Lakes, but cold mid level temps could suffice. Lets hope for a few breaks of thinning of clouds at some point tomorrow. Could be a couple of lines of storms, wit the last one on the front itself.

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I do think those 7.5C/KM rates were a little too high on the GFS based on what the lapse rates are across the region east of the Great Lakes, but cold mid level temps could suffice. Lets hope for a few breaks of thinning of clouds at some point tomorrow. Could be a couple of lines of storms, wit the last one on the front itself.

Yeah the one thing that's interesting is that the ULL is deepening as it's dropping south... so we're actually generating cold aloft as the thing drops overhead! It's so unusual to have one of these things strengthening and moving in this time of year... normally they're well north and filling!

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Yeah the one thing that's interesting is that the ULL is deepening as it's dropping south... so we're actually generating cold aloft as the thing drops overhead! It's so unusual to have one of these things strengthening and moving in this time of year... normally they're well north and filling!

Yeah and the way the trough sharpens and drops south...it allows for decent PVA and jet support as well. I would think...it should be interesting. Would be nice to get the morning convection out and some mid level drying just in time for the final line.

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Yeah and the way the trough sharpens and drops south...it allows for decent PVA and jet support as well. I would think...it should be interesting. Would be nice to get the morning convection out and some mid level drying just in time for the final line.

It's an odd setup.

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MCD...watch unlikely

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1266

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

0244 AM CDT MON JUN 25 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...PARTS OF WRN MA...CT...SERN NY AND LONG ISLAND..ERN

PA AND NJ...

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH UNLIKELY

VALID 250744Z - 250945Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...20 PERCENT

SUMMARY...THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO SPREAD INTO THE URBAN

CORRIDOR FROM PHILADELPHIA THROUGH NEW YORK CITY BETWEEN NOW AND

10-12Z. ACTIVITY COULD IMPACT THE GREATER NEW YORK CITY METRO

AREA... INCLUDING MUCH OF THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY...NORTHERN NEW

JERSEY AND LONG ISLAND FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD THIS MORNING. AT THE

PRESENT TIME SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL...IN THE FORM OF DAMAGING

WINDS AND LARGE HAIL...APPEARS RELATIVELY LOW...BUT TRENDS WILL BE

MONITORED.

DISCUSSION...MID-LEVEL COOLING AND FORCING FOR UPWARD VERTICAL

MOTION... ASSOCIATED WITH A SIGNIFICANT SHORT WAVE TROUGH DIGGING

INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION...ARE CONTRIBUTING TO

DESTABILIZATION SUPPORTING A PERSISTENT LINEAR BAND OF

CONVECTION...SPREADING SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKES TOWARD NORTHERN MID

ATLANTIC COASTAL AREAS. ACTIVITY IS MOVING AT AROUND 35 KT OR

SO...AND APPEARS LIKELY TO REACH NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC COASTAL

AREAS...INCLUDING THE URBAN CORRIDOR FROM PHILADELPHIA TO NEW YORK

CITY BY 11-12Z.

THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BEEN RATHER MODEST IN STRENGTH TO THIS POINT...

BUT AS THEY APPROACH COASTAL AREAS DURING THE NEXT FEW

HOURS...INFLOW OF WARMER AND MORE MOIST AIR MAY CONTRIBUTE TO AT

LEAST SOME INTENSIFICATION. IT IS NOT CLEAR THAT ACTIVITY WILL

BECOME SURFACE BASED...AND POTENTIAL FOR SUBSTANTIVE BOUNDARY LAYER

WARMING TO SUPPORT AN APPRECIABLE INCREASE IN DAMAGING WIND

POTENTIAL BY 12Z APPEARS LOW. HOWEVER...LOCALIZED GUSTS APPROACHING

SEVERE LIMITS MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION...AND A

COUPLE OF STRONGER CELLS MAY BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING SOME HAIL.

..KERR/CARBIN.. 06/25/2012

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Saw mention of a predawn 4-6 am TStorm line last night.

Well we did have a band of showers with isolated thunder move through from like 2-4 AM. However, the chance for the more intense storms was anywhere from like 5-10 AM and it looks like that will be occurring perhaps by 7 AM and moving out by 10 AM.

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