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Cool down and trough return June 23rd-27th seals the deal


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That sounds a lot better.

And yes, hopefully Ullr doesn't hurt me too much for these lapses. I know he'll make it snow at some point...can't get worse that last year.

Why tempt fate? You're really really young so you don't remember but there have been years much much worse than last Winter.

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There are different ways to look at it. NCDC itself uses various metrics that are based on area or population weightings of climate divisions, never mind those maps which are generated by whatever method the HPRCC decides upon. I kept it simple and used first-order sites for transparency sake. They are generally representative and easily verified by checking the BOX website, and any biases are built into the normals. It was not an attempt to cook the books as I have no vested interest in the warm/cold fight. My nearest climo site is LGA anyway.

Relax, I was kidding. You statistic geeks have trouble with the humor thing. I get it. What's your name Snowman? I'd rather not address an adult as "Snowman" and since you are here all the time we might as well call you by your real name.

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Those maps use divisional averages. Note the boundaries are climate divisions. That means they are including co-op stations in each of the climate divisions to create those maps. My numbers were strictly LCD sites within BOX's CWA, so yeah they may be skewed by the tarmac effect compared to those maps which include co-ops out in the middle of nowhere. The departures I computed follow NWS directives to use current normals for all departure comparisons (effectively recomputing departures historically every ten years as new normals sets are produced), whereas those maps might use static departures computed against the normals applicable for the time period.

That explains quite a bit. I figured something like those two important factors

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Relax, I was kidding. You statistic geeks have trouble with the humor thing. I get it. What's your name Snowman? I'd rather not address an adult as "Snowman" and since you are here all the time we might as well call you by your real name.

He is amazing at it...ya gotta admit it. And he is completely neutral on it.

Snowman21 has never let me down

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Ullr owes me big time after last winter. I will sacrifice my son's snowboard to rectify this

(He needs a new one anyhoo)

Steeper and deeper

You need to display unwavering allegiance to Ullr. He owes you nothing. It is you, in fact, that owe him for your sorry display of pessimism last Winter. Piety is what is rewarded. Also, no adult male should use the term "anyhoo". Bad form.

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You need to display unwavering allegiance to Ullr. He owes you nothing. It is you, in fact, that owe him for your sorry display of pessimism last Winter. Piety is what is rewarded. Also, no adult male should use the term "anyhoo". Bad form.

have another cup of tea big boy

We arr going to get rocked this winter.

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Quick look at the 12z Euro and looks like it has a persistent trough for the most part over the northeast through day 10. No big heat signal. Seasonable.

The 00z Euro continues the theme of persistent troughing over New England. Extreme heat lovers will now have to hope some of the building heat in the mid section of the country makes a run at us in mid July. For now though it looks cool and unsettled. With heavy rain forecast for tomorrrow and cool temps through the week those calling for high heat and drought conditions will continue to bust.

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Nice to see 90 in the forecast next weekend AWT. July starts very warm to hot ens say

You look forward to that, I look forward to mornings like this.

Woke up freezing in the house with all windows wide open.

Currently 45/44 with light fog. We radiated like a mofo last night up here. Mid-40s feels fantastic after the 90F heat last week.

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You look forward to that, I look forward to mornings like this.

Woke up freezing in the house with all windows wide open.

Currently 45/44 with light fog. We radiated like a mofo last night up here. Mid-40s feels fantastic after the 90F heat last week.

Glad you enjoy it. We certainly wouldn't that nonsense in SNE in mid summer. Low-mid 80's today for down here and then hopefully some wild storms tonight/tomorrow..Summer
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Zone forecast has 90..P and C's are always off

Yeah, they can be, especially when it comes to elevation. I don't know where they get the base data from, but when you click on a contour in the hills, it's always several hundred feet low. My understanding is that they do compensate for elevation and have given us a few degrees off of 90.

Enjoy the summer weather when you have it and like it! 52° here this morning...That's my kind of temps!

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Currently 45/44 with light fog. We radiated like a mofo last night up here. Mid-40s feels fantastic after the 90F heat last week.

Got down to 49 here this morning. You must've had a few hours head-start on the radiating... But yeah, felt great this morning and I'm looking forward to a cooler week with some good shots of rain.

Let's charge the water table back up before the sizzle returns. ;)

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Glad you enjoy it. We certainly wouldn't that nonsense in SNE in mid summer. Low-mid 80's today for down here and then hopefully some wild storms tonight/tomorrow..Summer

LOL

Who is this "we" you always talk about? I can think of about 90% of SNE posters who were loving the days prior to the heat when lows were in the 40s and highs in the 70s. Heck TAN was clicking 41F and 42F lows to posters' delight.

Spin, spin away. I think you are in the minority about high heat, not majority like you make it seem ;)

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LOL

Who is this "we" you always talk about? I can think of about 90% of SNE posters who were loving the days prior to the heat when lows were in the 40s and highs in the 70s. Heck TAN was clicking 41F and 42F lows to posters' delight.

Spin, spin away. I think you are in the minority about high heat, not majority like you make it seem ;)

Blizz hears voices in his bald head, that's who the 'we' is. Hit the 40's here last night as well. So awesome. Also so awesome that LL and the Blizz are having to look way out to the end of the extended for anything close to hot. Also it's funny how they are ignoring the days and days in the 60's with rain that are in the near term forecast.Such is life for high heat loving dorks that are stuck living in climatologically cool New England. Had a ski dream last night. Can't wait. Getting ever closer with each passing day that fails to be hot.

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Blizz hears voices in his bald head, that's who the 'we' is. Hit the 40's here last night as well. So awesome. Also so awesome that LL and the Blizz are having to look way out to the end of the extended for anything close to hot. Also it's funny how they are ignoring the days and days in the 60's with rain that are in the near term forecast.Such is life for high heat loving dorks that are stuck living in climatologically cool New England. Had a ski dream last night. Can't wait. Getting ever closer with each passing day that fails to be hot.

Sunny 84 today, you?

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With the trough over New England the big heat still stays to our SW...maybe we get a piece of the heat to come in ahead of a system for a day or two of near 90F in the hot spots, but overall it looks fairly normal over the next couple of weeks. By that I mean some slightly BN days and some AN days. It looks like a brutal stretch for the upper Midwest though.

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Sunny 84 today, you?

Today

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Increasing

Clouds

Hi 79 °F Tonight

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Heavy

Rain

Lo 60 °F Monday

tsra90.jpg

Tstms

Hi 69 °F Monday

Night

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Chance

Tstms

Lo 52 °F Tuesday

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Showers

Likely

Hi 62 °F Tuesday

Night

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Chance

Showers

Lo 53 °F Wednesday

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Chance

Showers

Hi 69 °F Wednesday

Night

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Mostly

Cloudy

Lo 54 °F Thursday

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Partly

Sunny

Hi 75 °F

Ummm, no. Though today will be the warmest day of the week.

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With the trough over New England the big heat still stays to our SW...maybe we get a piece of the heat to come in ahead of a system for a day or two of near 90F in the hot spots, but overall it looks fairly normal over the next couple of weeks. By that I mean some slightly BN days and some AN days. It looks like a brutal stretch for the upper Midwest though.

The 00z Euro depicts this very well. Maybe a transient shot of warmth but bagginess over New England seems to be a constant.

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Today

sct.jpg

Increasing

Clouds

Hi 79 °F Tonight

ntsra70.jpg

Heavy

Rain

Lo 60 °F Monday

tsra90.jpg

Tstms

Hi 69 °F Monday

Night

ntsra40.jpg

Chance

Tstms

Lo 52 °F Tuesday

shra60.jpg

Showers

Likely

Hi 62 °F Tuesday

Night

nshra50.jpg

Chance

Showers

Lo 53 °F Wednesday

shra40.jpg

Chance

Showers

Hi 69 °F Wednesday

Night

nbkn.jpg

Mostly

Cloudy

Lo 54 °F Thursday

bkn.jpg

Partly

Sunny

Hi 75 °F

Ummm, no. Though today will be the warmest day of the week.

absolutely brutal, try to stay positive:)

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absolutely brutal, try to stay positive:)

It's easy to remain positive in cool and beautiful GC. It's you I'm worried about. I mean snowless Winters and Summers at beaches fouled with medical waste. Who could blame you for getting depressed. Better, cooler days ahead for you Joe. Have fun at the beach and watch out for used needles.

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