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12z euro back off a tad on the intense heat but still looks like wed-sat of 90s with thurs and fri the core with mid to upper 90s possible.

Yeah, temperatures are a bit cooler now but still hot. It almost looks like it wants to try and bring a backdoor front toward the area Wednesday and Thursday.

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Yeah, temperatures are a bit cooler now but still hot. It almost looks like it wants to try and bring a backdoor front toward the area Wednesday and Thursday.

If Wundermaps can be believed, the 0Z Euro gives widespread 97-104 on Thursday in the Mid Atlantic from Virginia on up through NYC. Not ready for this...

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this looks like last winter but not as warm. Look at Alaska again-cold as hell in the winter months. Where the hell is the dark blue and purple for our area? Another early snow event? If I take this with a grain of salt, then I want some pepper too

per that though their is a west based -nao

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Looks like mid-upper 90s for a couple days with a couple more upper 80s - low 90s would be a good early call.

agree banking on low 90s for us now but would not be surprised if the models back off on the upper 90s as the trend with the models is to back off a tad closer to major warm ups now. A few GFS ensemble members actually already support operational backing off a tad we will have to wait and see if more show this on future runs. There have also been a few minor indications of a back door cold front in southern new England way to early to tell if models will focus on it more but if they do could be a nice wild card for the NYC folks.

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agree banking on low 90s for us now but would not be surprised if the models back off on the upper 90s as the trend with the models is to back off a tad closer to major warm ups now. A few GFS ensemble members actually already support operational backing off a tad we will have to wait and see if more show this on future runs. There have also been a few minor indications of a back door cold front in southern new England way to early to tell if models will focus on it more but if they do could be a nice wild card for the NYC folks.

There is only one model suggesting upper 90's and it historically has a tendency to overdo heat waves from time to time (Euro). GFS is in the mid 90's for WED-THU.

Personally, 93-96 for one if not both days is a reasonable forecast.

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There is only one model suggesting upper 90's and it historically has a tendency to overdo heat waves from time to time (Euro). GFS is in the mid 90's for WED-THU.

Personally, 93-96 for one if not both days is a reasonable forecast.

The Euro has backed off a bit for Wednesday (mid 90's)...still shows a few upper 90's on Thursday.

GFS is 94 and 95 respectively.

My guess would be 95 on Wednesday, 96 on Thursday.

We might not have a heat wave though before all is done...front might slip through late Thursday night to prevent 90 @ PHL on Friday.

This is why seeing some TV types get hypish over "heat waves" is sorta dumb. The 90 degree definition is kinda soft given our average high in July isn't far from that mark. Should be defined as either two or more of 95+ or three straight of 93+...something that can account for magnitude and duration...but not be "cheap" if the three days are 90, 91, and 90 and humidity levels are low.

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