bluewave Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yea this upcoming weeks cool shot should really hammer in some more -departures will just have to see if they will last threw the end of the month. The transition to cooler over the Midwest and Plains this month has been an interesting one. Here's a great write up from the NWS in Chicago: http://www.crh.noaa....=86308&source=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben4vols Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The problem is that most urban buildup and landform changes took place WELL before CRN was put together. I would guess that the data would line up perfectly. Until we have another growth explosion of building, the data will probably line up. As John Christy has said, a better metric would be to use Tmax temps only and compare them to past readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT450R Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The transition to cooler over the Midwest and Plains this month has been an interesting one. Here's a great write up from the NWS in Chicago: http://www.crh.noaa....=86308&source=0 Thanks for the link quite an impressive event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT450R Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 Interesting chart - AGW is sure causing some anomalous weather isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT450R Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Interesting chart - AGW is sure causing some anomalous weather isn't it? I just look at it as weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherRusty Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I just look at it as weather. It is just weather, but the range of weather you get is determined by the climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropy Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Anthony Watts fail: http://wattsupwithth...comment-1062425 Like Stephen Goddard, he claims the GISS graph for U.S. temperature is erroneous. Except it isn't. It only appears to be flawed, because the anomaly of 2.53C for 2012 to-date is so much higher than any other year that the y-axis doesn't extend high enough! He tries to debunk this possibility by resorting to NCDC's figures for July, which were +3.3F or +1.8C. The problem with this is the summer months are less variable in general, and the rest of the year has also been extremely warm. The actual year-to-date anomaly from NCDC is +4.2F, or +2.4C, which is very close to the value GISS is reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Anthony Watts fail: http://wattsupwithth...comment-1062425Like Stephen Goddard, he claims the GISS graph for U.S. temperature is erroneous. Except it isn't. It only appears to be flawed, because the anomaly of 2.53C for 2012 to-date is so much higher than any other year that the y-axis doesn't extend high enough! He tries to debunk this possibility by resorting to NCDC's figures for July, which were +3.3F or +1.8C. The problem with this is the summer months are less variable in general, and the rest of the year has also been extremely warm. The actual year-to-date anomaly from NCDC is +4.2F, or +2.4C, which is very close to the value GISS is reporting. A rare miss for him. The year will probably finish up as the warmest year, but probably under 2.0... Who knows, March was so above that the year was doomed from the 3rd month in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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