mike2010 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 how is there no tornado warning right now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatenWx Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 4 cells starting to strengthen, one looks to merge with another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Strongest rotation I have seen on a storm in about 4 years, and there have been many tor warnings before that. I could tell you why it's not warned, but I can't post that on a public message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Wunderground radar was hinting at the possibility of a tornado: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Its definitely starting to weaken. Down to 57-58 dbz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 thermodyanmics are much better across the area and shear is also present but triggers are lacking looks like that storm moved along the sea-breeze boundary which aided with the lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 For all we know, maybe it was a good call. (and no tornado) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Quite dark..lots of thunder in the vicinity. I'm in union county but so far not a peep from Upton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlebrick Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 there's a lot but here's the worst for sure sounds like a microburst, maybe a small tornado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Heavy rain thunder and lightning ..not much wind...probably no longer warned but a special weather statement would've been nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx.1028 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 there's a lot but here's the worst for sure sounds like a microburst, maybe a small tornado? Maybe even Straight line winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 Chased the supercell when it was dropping south towards 78 and had some rotation. Structure was amazing -- but just some small hail and non-severe winds by the time it got there with marine influence beginning to take its toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Allsnow Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Just to my west here in edison....got some rain..with a few good rumbles and cgl...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 jersey guys got their severe storm, hope they all had a chance to chase it like earthlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 vn pic storm reports - PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...SUMMARY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ 726 PM EDT SUN JUN 10 2012 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0529 PM TSTM WND DMG 2 SE SPARTA 41.01N 74.61W 06/10/2012 SUSSEX NJ 911 CALL CENTER LIMBS DOWN 0530 PM TSTM WND DMG 3 E HOPATCONG 40.93N 74.61W 06/10/2012 MORRIS NJ 911 CALL CENTER WIDESPREAD TREES AND WIRES DOWN FROM EAST OF HOPATCONG SOUTHWARD 0608 PM TSTM WND DMG 3 SE BERNARDSVILLE 40.70N 74.55W 06/10/2012 SOMERSET NJ 911 CALL CENTER TREES AND WIRES DOWN. 0615 PM FLOOD 4 E BERNARDSVILLE 40.73N 74.52W 06/10/2012 MORRIS NJ 911 CALL CENTER ROAD FLOODING ON INTERSTATE 287 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 freakin earthlight, its like severe weather is attracted to you. im jealous ill admit it lol. i like you john but these images that you take fuel my inner-jealousy that your in the right place in the right time most of the time and i cant even buy a decent t-storm where i am. but beautiful pic though you took you my friend get a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 freakin earthlight, its like severe weather is attracted to you. im jealous ill admit it lol. i like you john but these images that you take fuel my inner-jealousy that your in the right place in the right time most of the time and i cant even buy a decent t-storm where i am. but beautiful pic though you took you my friend I had to move to get this one -- took a ride on 78 west and jumped off near Gillette and got near a higher elevation. But the storm had already outflowed and was collapsing by that point. The rotation that was evident on the velocity scans up near Menham was dead and the winds weren't even that impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 how is there no tornado warning right now ? Strongest rotation I have seen on a storm in about 4 years, and there have been many tor warnings before that. I could tell you why it's not warned, but I can't post that on a public message board. The reason why no tornado warning was issued was because we were also using the data from the EWR TDWR, which had a better look at it. There was no real gate to gate signature which this radar was scanning much closer to the ground. The rotation that was showing up aloft tightened up once the sea breeze front undercut the storm and that probably allowed an increase in the updraft for a time. Despite a TVS being shown off of our radar, we were in contact with the county and they were not getting any reports of a tornado. The radar velocity data especially from the EWR TDWR showed nearly 50 knots at about 400 feet above the ground in Morris County. We believe there was no tornado and the downed trees and wires were caused by straight line winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 The reason why no tornado warning was issued was because we were also using the data from the EWR TDWR, which had a better look at it. There was no real gate to gate signature which this radar was scanning much closer to the ground. The rotation that was showing up aloft tightened up once the sea breeze front undercut the storm and that probably allowed an increase in the updraft for a time. Despite a TVS being shown off of our radar, we were in contact with the county and they were not getting any reports of a tornado. The radar velocity data especially from the EWR TDWR showed nearly 50 knots at about 400 feet above the ground in Morris County. We believe there was no tornado and the downed trees and wires were caused by straight line winds. Agree on not issuing a warning - you guys did a great job today. The EWR TDWR had a great look at it, that's what I was using when I decided to jump on I-78 and go a few towns to the west. It looked, at that point, like the rotation would be brief but at the very least the strong winds right off the deck would be a sight to see. By the time I intercepted the storm, the structure was great but the outflow had jumped way out ahead of the actual precipitation...the winds were actually pretty lackluster. Did see some small hail and of course a ton of lightning and heavy rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 The reason why no tornado warning was issued was because we were also using the data from the EWR TDWR, which had a better look at it. There was no real gate to gate signature which this radar was scanning much closer to the ground. The rotation that was showing up aloft tightened up once the sea breeze front undercut the storm and that probably allowed an increase in the updraft for a time. Despite a TVS being shown off of our radar, we were in contact with the county and they were not getting any reports of a tornado. The radar velocity data especially from the EWR TDWR showed nearly 50 knots at about 400 feet above the ground in Morris County. We believe there was no tornado and the downed trees and wires were caused by straight line winds. Yeah agreed with your call. The DIX radar did show strong low level rotation but that really peaked when the supercell was interacting with the sea breeze front moving inland. While the increase in low level horizontal vorticity probably enhanced the updraft and strengthened the mesocyclone the environment wasn't favorable for a tornado with a more stable airmass behind the sea breeze front plus high LCLs owing to the relatively dry boundary layer. Nice storm to watch with a couple neat mesoscale interactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Strongest rotation I have seen on a storm in about 4 years, and there have been many tor warnings before that. I could tell you why it's not warned, but I can't post that on a public message board. Are you for real? While it was an impressive supercell for a period of time nothing about that storm made me think a tornado warning was necessary. Thankfully you're not manning the radar desk throwing out tornado warnings like candy whenever a storm has rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Even though it didn't spawn one, I still agree with Analog96 on the rotation. At-least on the levels that we have access to. The reason why no tornado warning was issued was because we were also using the data from the EWR TDWR, which had a better look at it. There was no real gate to gate signature which this radar was scanning much closer to the ground. The rotation that was showing up aloft tightened up once the sea breeze front undercut the storm and that probably allowed an increase in the updraft for a time. Despite a TVS being shown off of our radar, we were in contact with the county and they were not getting any reports of a tornado. The radar velocity data especially from the EWR TDWR showed nearly 50 knots at about 400 feet above the ground in Morris County. We believe there was no tornado and the downed trees and wires were caused by straight line winds. Great non-call. You guys had to be close to hittin the trigger though. Goes to show how boring the weather's been lately. Big ole debate over 1 cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Strong storms over Fairfield county ct and LI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I had to move to get this one -- took a ride on 78 west and jumped off near Gillette and got near a higher elevation. But the storm had already outflowed and was collapsing by that point. The rotation that was evident on the velocity scans up near Menham was dead and the winds weren't even that impressive. awesome dedication in getting the shot though. one thing i do respect you for is your tenacity to really get the best pics and give an awesome forecast/outlooks for our area when weather is impending for our area gonna have to watch tommorow for some thunderstorm development around our area as well. should be more widespread than the pat few days storm threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Big storms Friday. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Big storms Friday. Book it. Gotta second you on this one. Gonna be a frontal passage then and with us being hot and humid and the atmosphere very unstable to say the least we could see a widespread severe outbreak on friday. We'll see as we get closer though, but i was thinking the same thing and even coastal areas may get in on this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Gotta second you on this one. Gonna be a frontal passage then and with us being hot and humid and the atmosphere very unstable to say the least we could see a widespread severe outbreak on friday. We'll see as we get closer though, but i was thinking the same thing and even coastal areas may get in on this time Worried about early morning storms that may leave debris and ruin the best instability but the setup is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 The GFS is pretty wet in morning/afternoon. Is this the frontal passage or just some showers out ahead of it? Worried about early morning storms that may leave debris and ruin the best instability but the setup is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 The GFS is pretty wet in morning/afternoon. Is this the frontal passage or just some showers out ahead of it? Pre tough will set off the storms it looks like front comes in.after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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