Brian5671 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 so redundant b/c 72 and sunny is so much fun to discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 so redundant agreed, your canned trolls and responses over the past 7 years are redundant, move along frocky, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 b/c 72 and sunny is so much fun to discuss! its frocky, what else do you expect. He hates snow and cold, One wonders why he lives in the northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 and mapping the 500 mb patters for our best storms has never been put into a single thread in this forum, so he is wrong anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 he's replying, waiting with bated breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 You should post 500mb height anomaly maps if you really want to pin down -NAO blocking versus no blocking...what you get is thia for 1/27/11...far from ideal positioning for a slow-moving all snow event along I-95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 b/c 72 and sunny is so much fun to discuss! superadiabatic lapse rates today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Trials, do you have a 500mb map for '78 and '93? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 You should post 500mb height anomaly maps if you really want to pin down -NAO blocking versus no blocking...what you get is thia for 1/27/11...far from ideal positioning for a slow-moving all snow event along I-95 the regular plots show the same thing with the blocking more east based than anything else, but you are correct, anomoly maps would point it out better, feel free to throw them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Trials, do you have a 500mb map for '78 and '93? here is 93, not that good, in fact, i am pretty sure the NAO maps and values were positive for this storm as well. Given its super fast movement and inland track, its not a shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 1978, def. more icelandic in nature but you can see it bending back towards greenland. Also check out the height increases to the north and west of the 50/50 low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Trials, do you have a 500mb map for '78 and '93? try googling the terms at the bottom of his images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 try googling the terms at the bottom of his images pay no attention to him. PM me and I will show you how to make them yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 And if anyone wants to make the maps, here is the link. Its pretty self explanatory http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/composites/hour/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 try googling the terms at the bottom of his images i even found this better site by searching around. http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/ncepreanal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 i even found this better site by searching around. http://www.hpc.ncep....gov/ncepreanal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 And if anyone wants to make the maps, here is the link. Its pretty self explanatory http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/composites/hour/ Thanks. I will try it out when I get home from work later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 PDII, pretty east based Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 12/19, has that feb 83 look, but as we know, the best snow never made it as far north as 83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 the regular plots show the same thing with the blocking more east based than anything else, but you are correct, anomoly maps would point it out better, feel free to throw them up All you have to do is check off anomaly instead of mean before you create those same maps that you are posting, fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 All you have to do is check off anomaly instead of mean before you create those same maps that you are posting. I like the regular 500 maps better, especially when looking at OP output in the winter and trying to match 500mb patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 like a moth to a flame, put up some 500mb maps, and WillORH appears. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Trils, your composite maps go back pretty far before the event....I'd try and stick to just 24 hours (maybe up to 48h) before the event to get the best feel for the synoptic setup leadiong into it. I've seen an east based block 3-5 days before an event get pushed into an ideal Greenland or even Davis Straight block by the tday before the event. A good example is 12/19/09....here is 4 days before on the 15th: And now by the day of the event: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Trils, your composite maps go back pretty far before the event....I'd try and stick to just 24 hours (maybe up to 48h) before the event to get the best feel for the synoptic setup leadiong into it. I've seen an east based block 3-5 days before an event get pushed into an ideal Greenland or even Davis Straight block by the tday before the event. A good example is 12/19/09....here is 4 days before on the 15th: And now by the day of the event: I am doing it intentionally, because for a lot of these events, the block is weakening or gone by the time the event hits but you are right how it can be deceptive. Lots of ways to play with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I am doing it intentionally, because for a lot of these events, the block is weakening or gone by the time the event hits. Yeah it can hapen that way sometimes...the block is already established and then weakens as the event is just hitting...that happened in the 1/12/11 event. But the 4 day composites can sometimes be a bit tough to read because of the smoothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yeah it can hapen that way sometimes...the block is already established and then weakens as the event is just hitting...that happened in the 1/12/11 event. But the 4 day composites can sometimes be a bit tough to read because of the smoothing. agreed, and I have pointed those out, its really cool to put these bigger storms in one thread and look at them. And people can play with the dates to get rid of some of the smoothin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Here is blizz 96 with smaller lead time, will is right, its less smoothed, so this is a good example also check -EPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 cool feature here during boxing day. You can see the first block dying as it moves west past the strait into Canada, but look at the new block forming. Just an insane period of blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 cool feature here during boxing day. You can see the first block dying as it moves west past the strait into Canada, but look at the new block forming. Just an insane period of blocking. and a week later, we had this leading up to 1/11/11 so cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.