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Doldrums of weather heading into June


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I am buying it because it has been consistently shown on the Euro, GFS and Canadian and now the SREF shows it.

Yes I know the SREF is based on the NAM, but it is still featuring a greater than 50% of measurable precip for the late Saturday timeframe.

And it is because of this disturbance for the late Saturday and parts of Sunday that I disagree with the timing of your mini torch.

I think that disturbance may keep temps down Saturday, but it's out of here by Sunday which is when I said it would start.

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All models have something either Saturday or Saturday night it seems.

Saturday may end up being not so nice of a day, actually. It may start off nice, but clouds should increase with some showers for someone by the afternoon hours.

I still do think we salvage Sunday afternoon as the disturbance exits and we get into the warmer airmass. I do agree with Chris that Monday-Tuesday should be the 'peak' of the warmer weather with temps maybe creeping near 90 somewhere in SNE, but I think even if we don't get a FROPA, we will gradually lower temps into the low to mid 80s by mid to late week as 1000-500mb thicknesses gradually lower to near 570dm after being in the 580s Monday-maybe Wednesday. After Tuesday or Wednesday I don't think it's a torch by any means for June standards.

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Saturday may end up being not so nice of a day, actually. It may start off nice, but clouds should increase with some showers for someone by the afternoon hours.

I still do think we salvage Sunday afternoon as the disturbance exits and we get into the warmer airmass. I do agree with Chris that Monday-Tuesday should be the 'peak' of the warmer weather with temps maybe creeping near 90 somewhere in SNE, but I think even if we don't get a FROPA, we will gradually lower temps into the low to mid 80s by mid to late week as 1000-500mb thicknesses gradually lower to near 570dm after being in the 580s Monday-maybe Wednesday. After Tuesday or Wednesday I don't think it's a torch by any means for June standards.

I'm not quite sold on 90 early next week...except for maybe BDL. I'm not convinced of any heat like that lasting longer than a day...basically the day of fropa where winds can go more S or SW.

Maybe Tuesday and/or Wednesday?

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Still not sold on torch with models having onshore flow early next week.

Agree with you there, which is why I extended my time frame to include the second half of next week. (For temps at or above 80)

I hope you are right about Sunday, but I'm not entirely sold. The Euro wants to keep some form of showers going all day Sunday and the GFS wants to send another little disturbance down through New York State and out south of Southern New England. But once we get through the weekend, the ridge really builds in through Monday afternoon and temperatures should be allowed to increase heading into the work week.

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Agree with you there, which is why I extended my time frame to include the second half of next week. (For temps at or above 80)

I hope you are right about Sunday, but I'm not entirely sold. The Euro wants to keep some form of showers going all day Sunday and the GFS wants to send another little disturbance down through New York State and out south of Southern New England. But once we get through the weekend, the ridge really builds in through Monday afternoon and temperatures should be allowed to increase heading into the work week.

What did I say about Sunday? With that front nearby, may see a few shwrs or tstms possibly clouds too. It very well may be nice and that stuff is shifted south. Too early to write it off.

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Agree with you there, which is why I extended my time frame to include the second half of next week. (For temps at or above 80)

I hope you are right about Sunday, but I'm not entirely sold. The Euro wants to keep some form of showers going all day Sunday and the GFS wants to send another little disturbance down through New York State and out south of Southern New England. But once we get through the weekend, the ridge really builds in through Monday afternoon and temperatures should be allowed to increase heading into the work week.

Do agree that Sunday could iffy during the morning in some spots. Don't have Euro data, so I really could look at much other than the E-WALL maps..but if the Euro's right, I could definitely see 80s right through next week away from the coast.

I'm not quite sold on 90 early next week...except for maybe BDL. I'm not convinced of any heat like that lasting longer than a day...basically the day of fropa where winds can go more S or SW.

Maybe Tuesday and/or Wednesday?

Yeah it should be moderately humid, so I think maybe Tuesday would be the day..maybe Wednesday if timing changes. And yeah, the valley is pretty much the only location I see getting to 90, if any where with a pretty much due 180 wind on the FROPA day.

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Saturday may end up being not so nice of a day, actually. It may start off nice, but clouds should increase with some showers for someone by the afternoon hours.

I still do think we salvage Sunday afternoon as the disturbance exits and we get into the warmer airmass. I do agree with Chris that Monday-Tuesday should be the 'peak' of the warmer weather with temps maybe creeping near 90 somewhere in SNE, but I think even if we don't get a FROPA, we will gradually lower temps into the low to mid 80s by mid to late week as 1000-500mb thicknesses gradually lower to near 570dm after being in the 580s Monday-maybe Wednesday. After Tuesday or Wednesday I don't think it's a torch by any means for June standards.

LOL....that narrows things down

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Do agree that Sunday could iffy during the morning in some spots. Don't have Euro data, so I really could look at much other than the E-WALL maps..but if the Euro's right, I could definitely see 80s right through next week away from the coast.

Yeah it should be moderately humid, so I think maybe Tuesday would be the day..maybe Wednesday if timing changes. And yeah, the valley is pretty much the only location I see getting to 90, if any where with a pretty much due 180 wind on the FROPA day.

I'm not denying it...it could be like 80s with dews in the 60s. It's just that the way the pattern looks...I'm not quite sold on temps in the high 80s to 90 for a several days like some think. I wouldn't rule it out, but models don't really have that look right now.

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Still not sold on torch with models having onshore flow early next week.

This will be just like that one we had in mid may..BDL with be in the 88-91 area..and there will be Pm seabreezes that may penetrate inland somewhat.

Tip is right though..we are moving twds an extended period of above normal temps, humidity, and summer as far out as the ensembles/models go

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This will be just like that one we had in mid may..BDL with be in the 88-91 area..and there will be Pm seabreezes that may penetrate inland somewhat.

Tip is right though..we are moving twds an extended period of above normal temps, humidity, and summer as far out as the ensembles/models go

Maybe for a day or two down at the tarmac there. Not really impressed right now for extended high temps. It will be more summery yes, but big prolonged heat stays west for now.

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Do agree that Sunday could iffy during the morning in some spots. Don't have Euro data, so I really could look at much other than the E-WALL maps..but if the Euro's right, I could definitely see 80s right through next week away from the coast.

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FWIW, it's not perfect and there is a delay, but try the ECMWF links on my link site below...I do screen grabs from WU for what they offer (which isn't perfect), but at least you can pull up a map directly and look at an animation quickly.

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FWIW, it's not perfect and there is a delay, but try the ECMWF links on my link site below...I do screen grabs from WU for what they offer (which isn't perfect), but at least you can pull up a map directly and look at an animation quickly.

Good stuff, I forgot about this! I'll bookmark it when I get home, thanks!

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Good stuff, I forgot about this! I'll bookmark it when I get home, thanks!

It's a work in progress so let me know if there are any modifications or something you'd like to see and I'll see if I can find it or script it. I just like being able to link to something directly instead of having to dig around.

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