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June 1, 2012 - Severe Thunderstorms/Tornadoes Event


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Davis can be creative. That was a blanket of water that came through. Flash flooding will be an issue somewhere in the county after this.

Flash flooding is in my back yard. The ground is so saturated that it is just ponding all over. I think we need to seriously look into better drainage.

And now a tornado warning for NE Frederick Co.

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THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...

EASTERN FREDERICK COUNTY IN NORTH CENTRAL MARYLAND...

NORTHERN MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...

CARROLL COUNTY IN NORTH CENTRAL MARYLAND...

WESTERN BALTIMORE COUNTY IN NORTHERN MARYLAND...

NORTHWESTERN HOWARD COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...

* UNTIL 930 PM EDT

* AT 854 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 5 MILES

NORTHWEST OF MOUNT AIRY...OR 11 MILES NORTH OF DAMASCUS...MOVING

NORTHEAST AT 50 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...

ELDERSBURG...

WESTMINSTER...

GAMBER...

HAMPSTEAD...

MANCHESTER...

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The gustnado talk w/r/t what SE encountered borders on asinine given the radar signature. Also, I love the doubting of the BWI report when it is an airport observer report with corroborating damage.

I have heard some people (incorrectly) use gustnado as a synonym for spinup/QLCS tornado.

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THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...

NORTHEASTERN FREDERICK COUNTY IN NORTH CENTRAL MARYLAND...

NORTHWESTERN CARROLL COUNTY IN NORTH CENTRAL MARYLAND...

Also parts of Baltimore county......including MBY

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Agree 100%

No one in the MA knows what a tornado looks like. I mean I'll give them the benefit of the doubt but ive seen scud, updraft bases etc all as 'possible tornadoes' today. Meanwhile looks like marks idea of SE was good and the mod risk was either poorly placed or unneeded. But it's the 95 corridor so gotta overwarn.

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No one in the MA knows what a tornado looks like. I mean I'll give them the benefit of the doubt but ive seen scud, updraft bases etc all as 'possible tornadoes' today. Meanwhile looks like marks idea of SE was good and the mod risk was either poorly placed or unneeded. But it's the 95 corridor so gotta overwarn.

Even Bob Ryan today was retweeted pictures that were obviously scud acting as if they were funnels. Tragic.

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No one in the MA knows what a tornado looks like. I mean I'll give them the benefit of the doubt but ive seen scud, updraft bases etc all as 'possible tornadoes' today. Meanwhile looks like marks idea of SE was good and the mod risk was either poorly placed or unneeded. But it's the 95 corridor so gotta overwarn.

Luckily they don't know what Moderate risk means either. That being said, there probably will be more brief spinups of EF0s and EF1s confirmed. The 2009 Ijamsville Tornado wasn't confirmed until the next day.

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Luckily they don't know what Moderate risk means either. That being said, there probably will be more brief spinups of EF0s and EF1s confirmed. The 2009 Ijamsville Tornado wasn't confirmed until the next day.

Most times they are not confirmed until the following day when an NWS survey team can get out. In LWX's area I've only seen a few times in my lifetime where the survey team confirms a tornado on the same day.

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A big meh event here for sure, just another rainy day. Had no wind or anything terribly heavy.

The unexpected mcs storms that came through a few days ago were much more impressive with all the wind and the shelf cloud... At least around here. None of the 2-3 warnings we had today seemed justified, just moderate rain. Way overhyped event.

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A big meh event here for sure, just another rainy day. Had no wind or anything terribly heavy.

The unexpected mcs storms that came through a few days ago were much more impressive with all the wind and the shelf cloud... At least around here. None of the 2-3 warnings we had today seemed justified, just moderate rain. Way overhyped event.

Your username serves you well.

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Thinking about the MDT Risk, which in my opinion wasn't quite needed, more so a High-End SLGT Risk (10% Tornado Probs.) Mainly because of the lack of CAPE, although there were some Significant Helicities in place, along with Shear... Anyway, I thought you needed a Sig. SVR Hatched area along with a 15% Tornado Prob. to get a MDT Risk? Instead of just a 15% Tornad Probabilty with No hatched area (1630Z Outlook didn't have hatched area, 2000Z had hatched area)

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Hit the 2" mark. The neighborhood just S of me has two stations approaching 3".

My fairly unscientific measuring process (popping a tape measure into a cynlindrical glass that's been out all day) shows me at just a shade under 2.5". Not a ton, but quite a hefty amount, and certainly starts June off on the right foot.

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Thinking about the MDT Risk, which in my opinion wasn't quite needed, more so a High-End SLGT Risk (10% Tornado Probs.) Mainly because of the lack of CAPE, although there were some Significant Helicities in place, along with Shear... Anyway, I thought you needed a Sig. SVR Hatched area along with a 15% Tornado Prob. to get a MDT Risk? Instead of just a 15% Tornad Probabilty with No hatched area (1630Z Outlook, 2000Z had hatched area)

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/SPC_probotlk_info.html

Nope - 15% will do it!

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Even Bob Ryan today was retweeted pictures that were obviously scud acting as if they were funnels. Tragic.

By DC area standards it was still a solid event I just don't know where they got the 10-15% stuff. I suppose 10% might have at least been passable. You can only take so much from parameters etc. It was pretty apparent early that even with the WF draped across the area anything near there would be brief and transient. I will say there was more discrete activity than I might have expected. It just might be about impossible to get a sizable tornado outbreak there numberswisw other than tropical.

The mass hysteria needs to stop one way or another. At some point no one will take the met community seriously. Part of the problem is that the day of or the day prior is not when people will learn at their best. Throwing around terms and ideas people don't understand from SPC etc doesnt do much good.. Neither does bowing completely to their forecast. They are by far the best in the biz but I truly believe they don't do as well with severe events east of the Apps. Local knowledge is key..

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