famartin Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Damn impressive storms last night, that's for sure! Some pretty intense winds reported from mesonet sites... http://raws.wrh.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/roman/raws_ca_monitor.cgi?rawsflag=290&state=PHI&type=0&orderby=e&day1=3&month1=1&year1=2012&hour1=21&timeobs=12 72 mph - Ship John Shoal (NOS-PORTS) 72 mph - Brandywine Shl (NOS-PORTS) 71 mph - Cape May (NOS-PORTS) 69 mph - Indian River Inlet (DEDOT) 67 mph - Millville Municipal Airport (NWS/FAA) 66 mph - US-1 and Appoquinimink River (DEDOT) 66 mph - Tolchester (NOS-PORTS) 64 mph - Absecon Channel (HADS) 64 mph - Rt. 1 and EOC Smyrna (DEDOT) 64 mph - Rt. 1 and 12 (DEDOT) 63 mph - Lewes (NOS-PORTS) 62 mph - Upper Deerfield (NJNET) 59 mph - Rt. 113 and 16 Ellendale (DEDOT) 59 mph - Atlantic City International Airport (NWS/FAA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not trying to stir the pot....but it just seem last night was poorly forcast....even dca did not pull the trigger on the storm until right before....i had no idea it was suppose to get that far north....from the looks at radar at 11pm, did not seem it Modeling wasnt great but the nam from thu night 0z did show some storms moving through DC and the Delmarva...it did track a bit north of modeling. That said, now casting was not the greatest last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 If i had to make a call on this things strength, i dont think it will come close to what we aw last night. The amount of instability is a good bit less than what it was yesterday, with cape values over 4000 and LI over -9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not much upstream instability today. Probably will need some storms to fire nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 If i had to make a call on this things strength, i dont think it will come close to what we aw last night. The amount of instability is a good bit less than what it was yesterday, with cape values over 4000 and LI over -9 Though mesoanalysis projections have some pockets of 4000 showing up down this way later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not much upstream instability today. Probably will need some storms to fire nearby. There's -4 LI in Western PA. It's not "perfect" but the atmosphere's got enough juice to have something fire...probably not as potent as yesterday but the atmosphere's got enough pop to get something going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Some of the damage pics are frickin' epic. https://www.facebook.com/phillywx (a couple of pics on that page) http://twitter.com/nbc40weather (lots more on that feed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbolt Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 just saw 10 PECO trucks south on 95 from the langhorne ext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 They sure are taking their time with the 1630... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html nudged a lil south -- Philly out of slight risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMolineuxLM1 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Yeah I am not sure if i am gonna even budge today. If its amazing for down there then maybe but not liking the trends. Might just finally take this day and use it to rest up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not beating up on the NWS here but I do think it would make sense to move the chance pops up to Philly and put Wilmington-AC south at 60% or higher. This system has got legs and probably makes it to the coast in some capacity. Watching those storms continue to pop out in Southern PA I think they should've went with the chance pops now...I have a feeling they will be updating their AFD again in a while. wow updated zones and it's still 20% pops for SNJ and Wilmington. Not trying to stir the pot....but it just seem last night was poorly forcast....even dca did not pull the trigger on the storm until right before....i had no idea it was suppose to get that far north....from the looks at radar at 11pm, did not seem it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 sorry bro...you guys normally kick a-- and take names...last night wasn't good for a lot of us... I got a bit worried about South Jersey and Delaware when dewps started to pool down there ahead of the line -- some of the #'s coming out ahead of that derecho were pretty oppressive for here (76 at PHL at 10 PM, mid 70's in much of DE and SNJ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 im sorry..dont mean to be rude...but was very shock about the eventual outcome....the spc failed more then anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch23 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Can't win them all. Weather after all can still be quite unpredictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 mcs debris clouds moving overhead with just a couple of showers. Might be tough to get anything going now north or northwest of Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 sorry bro...you guys normally kick a-- and take names...last night wasn't good for a lot of us... I got a bit worried about South Jersey and Delaware when dewps started to pool down there ahead of the line -- some of the #'s coming out ahead of that derecho were pretty oppressive for here (76 at PHL at 10 PM, mid 70's in much of DE and SNJ). The Corfidi vectors had the mcs moving w-e, which it did in reality. It looked like everything was going according "to plan" as the gust front finally flew away from the convection in Delmarva, but not totally as it never got away from the north of Baltimore cell, instead it formed a convergent conveyer belt for those mid 70s dew points into it and that cell was the one that went to town from Cecil to Atlantic Counties. (Don't know if you can see it on a KDOX loop). The gust front was nasty enough as the 70-80 mph winds took no prisoners either. Otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rib Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Guys, I'm going to have to take action if you keep trolling the NWS. That is gimmick infringment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The Corfidi vectors had the mcs moving w-e, which it did in reality. It looked like everything was going according "to plan" as the gust front finally flew away from the convection in Delmarva, but not totally as it never got away from the north of Baltimore cell, instead it formed a convergent conveyer belt for those mid 70s dew points into it and that cell was the one that went to town from Cecil to Atlantic Counties. (Don't know if you can see it on a KDOX loop). The gust front was nasty enough as the 70-80 mph winds took no prisoners either. Otherwise If the derecho had moved about 30 miles south everything would have looked a good bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 And after being up for the last 36 hours, and doing storm cleanup for the last 15, I will now go to sleep for a week straight. Until the pager goes off again, that is, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 That cell that eventually made it into Atlantic County was horrible. It began around 12:30 AM and got really bad around 1:15-2:30. I have never seen so much lightning in my life. I would estimate it at maybe 3-4 flashes per second, continuous. The rain was coming down so heavy at times that I thought for sure it was hailing, but never officially saw any. The one saving grace, at least for me was that the thunder itself wasn't all that impressive. I would say that most of the lightning was cloud to cloud, and while there were a few close strikes, we only had maybe 2 or 3 fairly loud bangs. We lost power around 2:15 and we decided to pack up and head home because of it. They aren't expecting the power company to fix things for 6-10 days. Driving around the rest of Pomona it looked like a war zone. By far top 3 worst storms I have ever seen in my life, and riding it out at night in an RV surrounded by trees made it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 That cell that eventually made it into Atlantic County was horrible. It began around 12:30 AM and got really bad around 1:15-2:30. I have never seen so much lightning in my life. I would estimate it at maybe 3-4 flashes per second, continuous. The rain was coming down so heavy at times that I thought for sure it was hailing, but never officially saw any. The one saving grace, at least for me was that the thunder itself wasn't all that impressive. I would say that most of the lightning was cloud to cloud, and while there were a few close strikes, we only had maybe 2 or 3 fairly loud bangs. We lost power around 2:15 and we decided to pack up and head home because of it. They aren't expecting the power company to fix things for 6-10 days. Driving around the rest of Pomona it looked like a war zone. By far top 3 worst storms I have ever seen in my life, and riding it out at night in an RV surrounded by trees made it worse. Sounds like quite a night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximum lawman Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 So a tree fell through my folks house outside DC, crushed one of their cars. Fortunately they weren't there. The tree was a huge oak, split in half about half way up. Must have been one helluva storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Looks like DE might get a watch later...... 40% chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 So a tree fell through my folks house outside DC, crushed one of their cars. Fortunately they weren't there. The tree was a huge oak, split in half about half way up. Must have been one helluva storm. Widespread gusts of 70-80 mph will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexD Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 um, what the hell happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 So, drove down the shore last night. Went 55-47. 1 ten mile stretch of 47 near Millville had a ton of trees on the shoulder. I think it was near Ryan when he got caught up in it. 1 thing to notice, and not to sound too cliche, but you could def smell a lot of fresh pine. I remember smelling it back June 24th,2010. You just know that smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 So, drove down the shore last night. Went 55-47. 1 ten mile stretch of 47 near Millville had a ton of trees on the shoulder. I think it was near Ryan when he got caught up in it. 1 thing to notice, and not to sound too cliche, but you could def smell a lot of fresh pine. I remember smelling it back June 24th,2010. You just know that smell. yup, i remember that and especially down in that area in the pine barrens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 look out for some afternoon and evening storm from chester county to reading to avo on east. Should originate up in the pocs over to nyc and push south. In response to a high pressure building in and a northerly to northeast flow that will set up on monday that will bring less humid conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine2211 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Not to get off topic here but who remembers the derecho that hit our area back in 1998? Didnt it do a lot of damage in chester county and bucks county? Well the lightning and damage the other night was right up there with that storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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