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June 2012 General Discussion


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If they get Lake water then they'll have to return any used water to the same watershed somehow. I guess the track of thinking is if we allow one community outside of the watershed to get water from the lake(s) then other communities further away will start asking for it. Sooner or later I guess the Great Lake water level could be affected.

Really nice day today, too bad it didn't rain last night though. High 73°. Month is just a hair above normal right now. Next couple days will drag it back below normal.

Couple pictures out in the country.

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It's been kinda dry this year in this area, but not THAT dry. Had over 4" of rain in April, and over 3" in May. MLI is only down a few inches for the year. June has been pretty dry so far, but still a long ways to go.

Hit 74 today. Very nice!

You've fared much better than out this way. I've only had 7" since Feb. 1st (7.01") and only 3.07" since March 25th.

FWA will be at least -7" by the end of the week. They are sitting at 10.40" for the year, but almost 3" of that came in January. Bone dry.

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I've never understood why they can't use lake water...but I suppose Canada, IL, MI also would want a say on the matter... I know La Crosse has a bunch of wells scattered around the city that they then treat. Its decent stuff, but I bet that lake water is better then well water...

you can google the details but not long ago and in anticipation of the upcoming water wars (largely due to rumors of dry western states wanting to tap our lakes) the great lakes states and neighboring canadians drafted some paperwork to protect the lakes....the end results (like the story Geos posted) is that lake water is much more protected.

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First there wasn't any snow to plow during the winter and now its mid June and the grass is already dying so there's nothing to cut. At least give me one or the other

Anyways another perfect day to be working outside, so I cant complain about that.

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First there wasn't any snow to plow during the winter and now its mid June and the grass is already dying so there's nothing to cut. At least give me one or the other

Anyways another perfect day to be working outside, so I cant complain about that.

I know a few people that plow snow in the winter and do other outside work in the warmer months. First it was slim pickings for snow plowing, now since Mid May or so, they aren't cutting much grass. I will say the weeds still need pulling - they are still growing!

Last summer it was too much rain from Mid June on.

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Mid June-mid July was fairly dry.

The last 1/3 of July(after the heat-wave) and into August was quite wet.

Yeah you're right. 2.64" for June, 10.45" for July most of which was after July 19th, and 4.30" for August. 17.39" total for the summer of 2011!

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NWS LOT:

One of the Driest Starts to June on Record

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL

1054 AM CDT TUE JUN 12 2012 /1154 AM EDT TUE JUN 12 2012/

...IN THE MIDST OF ONE OF THE DRIEST STARTS TO JUNE ON RECORD...

A NOTABLY DRY PATTERN HAS CONTINUED OVER THE AREA FROM THE SPRING

INTO METEOROLOGICAL SUMMER. IT PRESENTLY LOOKS THAT NO RAINFALL

WILL FALL ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS AND NORTHWEST INDIANA THROUGH

FRIDAY JUNE 15TH. BELOW IS A LOOK AT HOW THIS STACKS UP WITH THE

DRIEST FIRST HALVES OF JUNE ON RECORD.

CHICAGO...

DRIEST STARTS TO JUNE /THROUGH THE 15TH/ ON RECORD SINCE 1871:

RANK AMOUNT YEAR

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1. 0.00 1988

2. 0.01 2012*

3. 0.04 1922

4. 0.07 1968

5. 0.13 1913 1992

*=CURRENT TOTAL PLUS 0.00 OF FORECAST PRECIP THROUGH JUNE 15TH.

ROCKFORD...

DRIEST STARTS TO JUNE /THROUGH THE 15TH/ ON RECORD SINCE 1906:

RANK AMOUNT YEAR

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1. 0.00 1988

2. 0.02 1933

3. 0.10 2012*

4. 0.11 1951

5. 0.27 1956

*=CURRENT TOTAL PLUS 0.00 OF FORECAST PRECIP THROUGH JUNE 15TH.

WHILE ROCKFORD DID RECEIVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF RAIN MONDAY

MORNING...THE COMMUNITY HAS MISSED OUT ON THE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN

REGIONAL BOUTS OF MORE SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL DURING THE PAST COUPLE

MONTHS. HERE IS A LOOK AT THE DRIEST MID-APRILS THROUGH MID-JUNES

ON RECORD AT ROCKFORD.

DRIEST APRIL 16TH-JUNE 15TH ON RECORD:

RANK AMOUNT YEAR

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1. 1.11 1934

2. 1.93 1988

3. 1.95 1928

4. 2.84 2012*

5. 2.98 1992

*=CURRENT TOTAL PLUS 0.00 OF FORECAST PRECIP THROUGH JUNE 15TH.

You got to question the "impressiveness", or rather perhaps for better words, the arbitrariness of an April 16-June 15 record period. Seems to be cherry picking a record for record's sake, especially since nearly 3" fell in the 2 days preceding April 16th and it's not even June 15th yet. Regardless it's been dry for the majority of the country south and east of Minnesota the past 2 months, but that record, and subsequent statement, is stretching it just a tad IMO.

Here at BKL, similarly we've had just 3.11" since April 1st.

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You got to question the "impressiveness", or rather perhaps for better words, the arbitrariness of an April 16-June 15 record period. Seems to be cherry picking a record for record's sake, especially since nearly 3" fell in the 2 days preceding April 16th and it's not even June 15th yet. Regardless it's been dry for the majority of the country south and east of Minnesota the past 2 months,but that record, and subsequent statement, is stretching it just a tad IMO.

Here at BKL, similarly we've had just 3.11" since April 1st.

You could argue that it's no more arbitrary then any 30 day period in one specific month... In terms of weather the distinction we have with months is already arbitrary

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You could argue that it's no more arbitrary then any 30 day period in one specific month... In terms of weather the distinction we have with months is already arbitrary

True, but our society works within the framework of 12 distinct months. In essence those are arbitrary except for the fact we already think in terms of those periods. I question how meaningful some of these records are. There are an infinite number of record periods that one could theoretically create. Imagine having an NWS climate page with literally thousands upon thousands of top 10 lists for warmest June 6 - June 17, or wettest December 9 - January 3, and so forth. You have to draw the line somewhere, especially if you're going to issue a PNS for it.

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Long way to go, but the 00z Euro/GFS would suggest the potential for a severe weather event beginning around the 18th. The Euro at 144 looks especially interesting across part of the Upper Midwest, particularly Wisconsin.

Multiple rounds of thunderstorms is exactly what we need, hopefully this actually happens.

Made it down to 50 degrees this morning, another perfect day is on the way.

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Later this week into next week is looking decent for at least the western part of the lakes region. Friday into Saturday some of the storm activity to my west and north could trickle down here to drop some rain before it dries up as it tries to cross the Mississippi river. Early to mid next week looks better for heavier rain as the trough makes more eastward progress.

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It would be nice if one of these summers was actually cool and wet, as allergy season seems to be getting longer and longer every year, and this dry weather is not helping. Normally it's a late summer/early fall thing for me, but I'm starting to feel it now.

different types of allergies...cool and wet would be bad for some

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Yes 6z is rounds of T-Storms for WI into the plains. It's unfortunate that its most likely wrong. It's the 6z

models have been showing this area being active for a ton of runs and it's one of the few areas (NE Nebraska northeast through the twin cities into far northern WI) that has been relatively wet...so it's most likely right.

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