HurricaneJosh Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Yea weather is really going downhill. Torrential rain and strong winds. I see people looking at me through their windows like I'm a jackass. lol. I don't care. This is fun! OK, so are you in a car? Walking around in a raincoat? Details, please. As I said to Jaguars, I hope ya get raked real good. You guys deserve a little action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I really don't think we'll see a gust on land higher than 60 MPH. No It's still not a big wind threat. It might go over 60mph, but the Palm trees can take quite a bit of punishment, so FL is less suseptable to power outages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Huh? There's an inner band that's still well offshore. You can't make an assumption that the higher winds are in that outer band unless you have some recon data to support that. He is talking about the inner band, not the outer band. The inner band is quickly moving inland towards Jacksonville city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I really don't think we'll see a gust on land higher than 60 MPH. 05/27/2012 0830 PM 1 miles N of Mayport, Duval County. Tropical storm, reported by mesonet. Mesonet equipment at Huguenot Park recorded a sustained wind of 54 mph with a peak wind gust of 63 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguars Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 been out for a little while at the neighbors, some branches down but nothing major. raining really hard about 20 minutes ago. heading back out for a little more re-con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Huh? There's an inner band that's still well offshore. You can't make an assumption that the higher winds are in that outer band unless you have some recon data to support that. I think the band hitting the shore now is indeed the eyewall (not just a normal band like coach said). The inner swirl on reflectivity is some sort of mesovortice like structure, definitely not deep convection. Peak wind gust so far is 63 mph at the mouth of the St. Johns river. I think we'll see gusts around hurricane force or higher in spots over the next 12 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 OK, so are you in a car? Walking around in a raincoat? Details, please. As I said to Jaguars, I hope ya get raked real good. You guys deserve a little action. I was going to but once I realized that a lot of trees would be down because this area hasn't had a storm in years, I figured it would be best to stay at the hotel. I went back and forth to the beach until about 8, but now I'm "hunkering down" at the hotel. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Huh? There's an inner band that's still well offshore. You can't make an assumption that the higher winds are in that outer band unless you have some recon data to support that. The inner core isn't showing on radar. This is a tropical storm still showing sub-tropical characteristics. The inner core isn't going to all of a sudden show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Wood Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I think the band hitting the shore now is indeed the eyewall (not just a normal band like coach said). The inner swirl on reflectivity is some sort of mesovortice like structure, definitely not deep convection. Peak wind gust so far is 63 mph at the mouth of the St. Johns river. I think we'll see gusts around hurricane force or higher in spots over the next 12 hours. Agreed. I think sustained winds over 65 mph will be hard to come by at the surface, but gusts to 75-80 possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad strangler Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I am in a soaker with the far south outer band. Lightening is constant all over. Not much cloud to ground stuff but constant flashing and rumbling with the rains. No winds to speak of besides breezy gusts to 20 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguars Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 nice band coming through right now, we'll head back to the neighbors later. raining in sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 He is talking about the inner band, not the outer band. The inner band is quickly moving inland towards Jacksonville city. I think the band hitting the shore now is indeed the eyewall (not just a normal band like coach said). The inner swirl on reflectivity is some sort of mesovortice like structure, definitely not deep convection. Huh? I'm on a plane and maybe it's my connection, as I see a static shot of an image from over an hour ago-- and in that image, there's a substantive inner band offshore. (Maybe it's a loop and I'm only seeing a static shot?) Either way, like I said above, the cyclone's landfall intensity-- and its status as a tropical storm or hurricane-- will not be determined based on surface obs out of JAX; it will be the recon data from before, plus subsequent radar imagery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Huh? I'm on a plane and maybe it's my connection, as I see a static shot of an image from over an hour ago-- and in that image, there's a substantive inner band offshore. (Maybe it's a loop and I'm only seeing a static shot?) Either way, like I said above, the cyclone's landfall intensity-- and its status as a tropical storm or hurricane-- will not be determined based on surface obs out of JAX; it will be the recon data from before, plus subsequent radar imagery. Yup, that's exactly what it was. He posted a loop but you only could see the first image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Yup, that's exactly what it was. He posted a loop but you only could see the first image. Ah, OK. Mystery solved. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 No It's still not a big wind threat. It might go over 60mph, but the Palm trees can take quite a bit of punishment, so FL is less suseptable to power outages. Jax has a truly massive tree canopy consisting of mainly 3 types of oaks, red maples, cypress (both pond and bald), slash and longleaf pine, and magnolias. Palm trees are everywhere as expected, but Jax's 2nd biggest asset, urban forest, is its biggest threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Yup, that's exactly what it was. He posted a loop but you only could see the first image. Come on, you know what I mean by an INNER core. Not just some bands rotating 100 miles from the center of low pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Jax has a truly massive tree canopy consisting of mainly 3 types of oaks, red maples, cypress (both pond and bald), slash and longleaf pine, and magnolias. Palm trees are everywhere as expected, but Jax's 2nd biggest asset, urban forest, is its biggest threat. Agreed. It's not like this area only has palms, and it has been a *very* long time since JAX has seen any serious pruning from windstorms. I'd say a strong TS or Cat-1 hurricane can produce major wind havoc there. S FL-- particularly areas raked by recent cyclones (Jeanne, Frances, Wilma)-- is probably not as vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguars Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 transformer just popped somewhere off in the distance. lost power for 5 minutes and then came right back on. HEAVY RAIN, gusty but probably barely ts force in the gusts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Come on, you know what I mean by an INNER core. Not just some bands rotating 100 miles from the center of low pressure. Huh? I don't think gymengineer or anyone else was suggesting rainbands 100 mi from the center constitute an inner core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Come on, you know what I mean by an INNER core. Not just some bands rotating 100 miles from the center of low pressure. Radar looks like a poor-man's Jeanne right now. 100 miles is an exaggeration as the COC is actually pretty close to shore already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Radar looks like a poor-man's Jeanne right now. 100 miles is an exaggeration as the COC is actually pretty close to shore already. "Poor man's Jeanne". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguars Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 whoa, BIG tree limb just came down in the yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 It's been pretty calm the last 10-15 mins or so. Still breezy (maybe 15-20 mph) but it stopped raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 60 mph gust at Jacksonville NAS and lines down in Fernandina Beach via LSR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Norcross on TWC just said a 67 mph wind gust at the Navel Station. I'm 2 miles south of that on A1A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Norcross on TWC just said a 67 mph wind gust at the Navel Station. I'm 2 miles south of that on A1A. They must be right in the belly of the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivers Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 we had some pretty hefty bands of rain and wind here in palm coast 40mph+ gusts with each band lights flickering and can hear the pines cracking away in the woods behind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguars Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 NE quadrant looking pretty strong, gonna be a while before that hits me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Norcross on TWC just said a 67 mph wind gust at the Navel Station. I'm 2 miles south of that on A1A. was just west of there on a St. Johns River channel tower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 was just west of there on a St. Johns River channel tower The LSR says it was on Buck Island. Still, I know some of the highrises Downtown are 35-40 stories. They've gotta be near hurricane force gusts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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