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Beryl now TD; Landfall 70 mph Jax Bch 12:10 AM 5/28.; TS warnings lifted for S SC to NE FL


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  On 5/27/2012 at 11:51 PM, thebigrombalski said:

noob question...but Beryl has been referred to thus far as sub-tropical...if it reaches hurricane strength is it automatically tropical, or would it be sub-tropical hurricane beryl?

The NHC removed the sub-tropical classification earlier today, it is now a fully tropical system at this point!

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  On 5/27/2012 at 11:51 PM, HurricaneJosh said:

The 8 pm EDT advisory puts it at 60 kt and says any additional organization will make it a Cat 1. So, if the radar presentation improves in the next few hours, we have a hurricane. The center is still several hours offshore.

Shouldn't a hurricane warning be issued since it's so close to the threshold?

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  On 5/27/2012 at 11:54 PM, Jaguars said:

No she's gone totally trop. They wouldn't classify her as ST-Hurricane Beryl, just Hurricane Beryl.

  On 5/27/2012 at 11:54 PM, uofmiami said:

The NHC removed the sub-tropical classification earlier today, it is now a fully tropical system at this point!

thanks :)

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Final VDM...

Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)

Transmitted: 28th day of the month at 00:15Z

Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 308)

Storm Number & Year: 02L in 2012

Storm Name: Beryl (flight in the North Atlantic basin)

Mission Number: 3 seeall.png

Observation Number: 16

A. Time of Center Fix: 27th day of the month at 23:38:40Z

B. Center Fix Coordinates: 30°12'N 80°37'W (30.2N 80.6167W) viewmap.png

B. Center Fix Location: 63 miles (101 km) to the E (98°) from Jacksonville, FL, USA.

C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,353m (4,439ft) at 850mb

D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 44kts (~ 50.6mph)

E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 24 nautical miles (28 statute miles) to the SSE/S (169°) of center fix

F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 249° at 58kts (From the WSW at ~ 66.7mph)

G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 31 nautical miles (36 statute miles) to the S (172°) of center fix

H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 993mb (29.32 inHg)

I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 12°C (54°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,523m (4,997ft)

J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,524m (5,000ft)

K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 14°C (57°F)

K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available

L. Eye Character: Open from the northwest to the northeast

M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 50 nautical miles (58 statute miles)

N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind and Pressure

N. Fix Levels (sfc and flt lvl centers are within 5nm of each other): Surface and 850mb

O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles

O. Meteorological Accuracy: 2 nautical miles

Remarks Section:

Maximum Wind Outbound: 80kts (~ 92.1mph) in the northwest quadrant at 23:51:30Z

Maximum Flight Level Wind: 80kts (~ 92.1mph) in the northwest quadrant at 23:51:30Z

Maximum Flight Level Temp: 20°C (68°F) which was observed 8 nautical miles to the NNW (330°) from the flight level center

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  On 5/28/2012 at 12:13 AM, hurricaneman said:

And one of those a possible hurricane in Beryl, its not even hurricane season yet and we have had a couple of good looking tropical storms

They both really came from the same upper trough that has sat off the East Coast, over Cuba, and into the Caribbean for weeks. Amazing.

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  On 5/28/2012 at 1:19 AM, Coach McGuirk said:

There's no real core with the storm so all the winds are going to be coming from this band making landfall in northern Florida.

Huh? There's an inner band that's still well offshore. You can't make an assumption that the higher winds are in that outer band unless you have some recon data to support that.

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