David Reimer Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Nothing worse than an exposed LLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 A storms usaully name wasters, accept for Andrew, Agnes and Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Named thunderstorm complexes lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Looks like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Big cargo ship like that would pitch a fit in near 75 mph winds especially if it kept on up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Looks bad, but a cool weather story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Named thunderstorm complexes lolz Beryl is currently situated over SW OK with winds to 60 MPH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 A storms usaully name wasters, accept for Andrew, Agnes and Allen. Audrey was big ticket. Alicia, barely a Cat 3 but was HGX area's last major, way, way back in 1983. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Audrey was big ticket. Alicia, barely a Cat 3 but was HGX area's last major, way, way back in 1983. Forgot about those. Still haven't still no strongs ones in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Audrey was big ticket. Alicia, barely a Cat 3 but was HGX area's last major, way, way back in 1983. And there was Anita 1977, a Cat-5 landfall in N MX. So, actually, there are plenty of examples of significant A storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative-nao Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Just light winds here. no rain as of yet at 2 am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 seems like new convection building, no?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 Audrey was big ticket. Alicia, barely a Cat 3 but was HGX area's last major, way, way back in 1983. I know that the official meteorological definition of a major is a Category 3 - 5 Hurricane, but I would propose that Ike (2008) was a major hurricane in it's own right, storm surge. I know it wasn't an official major and that you're technically correct, but Ike was a big ole' B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I know that the official meteorological definition of a major is a Category 3 - 5 Hurricane, but I would propose that Ike (2008) was a major hurricane in it's own right, storm surge. I know it wasn't an official major and that you're technically correct, but Ike was a big ole' B. The SS scale is explicitly a wind scale now, and from a wind perspective, Ike was definitely not deserving of anything higher than a Cat-2 rating. It was another one of those enormous, loose circulations that just never had a real core and a good gradient. I was in it, and I remember the wind field was very flat-- it was hours and hours and hours of 50-65-kt winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 agree with David, Ike's devastation was hell on earth for millions, the fact it happened at the begining of "the crash" made it's economic effects much worse, imho http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/archives/2008/h2008_ike.html here & now, Alberto's just a pup, but fun to track/watch http://www.hurricanecity.com/models/data.cgi?basin=al&year=2012&storm=01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny and Warm Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 agree with David, Ike's devastation was hell on earth for millions, the fact it happened at the begining of "the crash" made it's economic effects much worse, imho http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/archives/2008/h2008_ike.html here & now, Alberto's just a pup, but fun to track/watch http://www.hurricanecity.com/models/data.cgi?basin=al&year=2012&storm=01 din't see an obs thread, but Hilton Head just got an hour of mod to heavy rain out of that bright blob. Breezy conditions with winds to 10-15 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 We should start naming MCVs in the Plains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 We should start naming MCVs in the Plains. Actual TS Allison here wasn't so bad, it was the post-tropical MCV that came back through that dropped 2 inches/hr plus at my house for eight hours... This close to flooding the house. But if we didn't flood then, we probably never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 We should start naming MCVs in the Plains. I agree. Along with tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, and snowstorms. Why should TCs have all the fun and drama of manufactured personalities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 The storm had winds sustained at 33 or so knots at a couple of reporting stations. Kind of a reach to claim it wasn't a TS when they had the support of various tools they use. I think they did the right thing in naming it, although clearly it's weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 storm surge is also a function of coastline, so if you included that in the classificaton scheme, you'd be introducing luck into the results. Bingo. Couldn't have said it better or more concisely. agree with David, Ike's devastation was hell on earth for millions, the fact it happened at the begining of "the crash" made it's economic effects much worse, imho http://www.nasa.gov/.../h2008_ike.html But an intensity scale isn't a measure of damage, a reflection of the number of people affected, a misery index, or anything else. It is an intensity scale-- and Ike was not an intense hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 I agree. Along with tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, and snowstorms. Why should TCs have all the fun and drama of manufactured personalities? Well, we already have a tendency to name tornadoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebreaker5221 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 We should start naming MCVs in the Plains. Come on, you know that if NHC didn't name it there would be just as many people complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 All these joke posts are detrimental to the thread. This system has met all the requirements to be considered a TC for over 24 hours now. If someone has a real reason otherwise they should post it instead of saying "lolz, MCV". Anyways, NHC has a handful as far as the track forecast goes. It's been going steadily towards the SW and doesn't want to turn, despite the NHC forecast of it turning NE. I wouldn't be that shocked if it made landfall around the FL/GA area, but it'll be weak regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 All these joke posts are detrimental to the thread. This system has met all the requirements to be considered a TC for over 24 hours now. If someone has a real reason otherwise they should post it instead of saying "lolz, MCV". Anyways, NHC has a handful as far as the track forecast goes. It's been going steadily towards the SW and doesn't want to turn, despite the NHC forecast of it turning NE. I wouldn't be that shocked if it made landfall around the FL/GA area, but it'll be weak regardless. Totally agree. Impressive convection fired over/just to the SW of the center in the last few hours. Be interesting to see if it turns now that it has some structure above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC) Transmitted: 20th day of the month at 19:09Z Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 302) Storm Number & Year: 01L in 2012 Storm Name: Alberto (flight in the North Atlantic basin) Mission Number: 1 Observation Number: 02 A. Time of Center Fix: 20th day of the month at 18:46:40Z B. Center Fix Coordinates: 31°03'N 80°01'W (31.05N 80.0167W) (View map) B. Center Fix Location: 88 miles (141 km) to the E (95°) from Brunswick, GA, USA. C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,455m (4,774ft) at 850mb D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 45kts (~ 51.8mph) E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 8 nautical miles (9 statute miles) to the WSW (241°) of center fix F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 332° at 30kts (From the NNW at ~ 34.5mph) G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 8 nautical miles (9 statute miles) to the WSW (240°) of center fix H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 1005mb (29.68 inHg) I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 13°C (55°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,524m (5,000ft) J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,525m (5,003ft) K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 9°C (48°F) K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available L. Eye Character: Not Available M. Eye Shape: Not Available N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature N. Fix Levels (sfc and flt lvl centers are within 5nm of each other): Surface and 850mb O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile Remarks Section: Maximum Wind Outbound: 35kts (~ 40.3mph) in the southwest quadrant at 18:55:20Z Maximum Flight Level Wind: 35kts (~ 40.3mph) in the southwest quadrant at 18:55:20Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Come on, you know that if NHC didn't name it there would be just as many people complaining. All these joke posts are detrimental to the thread. This system has met all the requirements to be considered a TC for over 24 hours now. If someone has a real reason otherwise they should post it instead of saying "lolz, MCV". Anyways, NHC has a handful as far as the track forecast goes. It's been going steadily towards the SW and doesn't want to turn, despite the NHC forecast of it turning NE. I wouldn't be that shocked if it made landfall around the FL/GA area, but it'll be weak regardless. Don't take it so serious. It was a half-hearted joke on its presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC) Transmitted: 20th day of the month at 19:09Z Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 302) Storm Number & Year: 01L in 2012 Storm Name: Alberto (flight in the North Atlantic basin) Mission Number: 1 Observation Number: 02 A. Time of Center Fix: 20th day of the month at 18:46:40Z B. Center Fix Coordinates: 31°03'N 80°01'W (31.05N 80.0167W) (View map) B. Center Fix Location: 88 miles (141 km) to the E (95°) from Brunswick, GA, USA. C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,455m (4,774ft) at 850mb D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 45kts (~ 51.8mph) E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 8 nautical miles (9 statute miles) to the WSW (241°) of center fix F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 332° at 30kts (From the NNW at ~ 34.5mph) G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 8 nautical miles (9 statute miles) to the WSW (240°) of center fix H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 1005mb (29.68 inHg) I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 13°C (55°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,524m (5,000ft) J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,525m (5,003ft) K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 9°C (48°F) K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available L. Eye Character: Not Available M. Eye Shape: Not Available N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature N. Fix Levels (sfc and flt lvl centers are within 5nm of each other): Surface and 850mb O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile Remarks Section: Maximum Wind Outbound: 35kts (~ 40.3mph) in the southwest quadrant at 18:55:20Z Maximum Flight Level Wind: 35kts (~ 40.3mph) in the southwest quadrant at 18:55:20Z Nice, is what it is....not a bad TS for May off the SE coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 The dropsonde missed the dead center by a little bit according to the wind speeds. The central pressure is likely around 1003mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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